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Title: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on August 30, 2016, 01:13:34 PM: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Time_Magazine_logo.svg/150px-Time_Magazine_logo.svg.png)

I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump

(https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/cj-pearson.jpg?quality=75&strip=color&w=800)
CJ Pearson is a teenage political activist and National Chairman of Teens for Trump

"The future and stability of America are far more important than ego and party"

In the past 15 months, I have found myself supporting four different candidates for President: Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Bernie Sanders and now billionaire businessman and Republican Party nominee, Donald Trump. As a 14-year-old, I may not be able to vote in this election, but I am deeply invested in its outcome.

Some have ridiculed me for supporting various candidates across the ideological spectrum. In a condescending blog post last December, conservative radio host Erick Erickson accused me of desperately seeking attention, questioned my intellectual capacity and instructed me to "shut up, and go live life." This reaction makes one thing clear: many people in the "old guard" do not have the slightest understanding of the political philosophies of my generation.

I believe that the future of America is post-party politics. I hope that in 10 to 20 years, the near constant issue of partisanship will be a distant memory.

The shift is already beginning. According to a 2014 Pew Research study, 50% of millennials identify as political independents. In 2004, that number was a mere 38%. Many people in my generation support the person, regardless of political party, who they believe has the capacity and ability to lead. The future and stability of America are far more important than ego and party.

That's why I've decided to support Mr. Trump, and it's my sincere belief that flocks of other young people will soon follow.

The independent streaks ingrained into the hearts and souls of America's youth are the cornerstone of the billionaire's youth appeal. The problems of America's young folks are far bigger than Snapchat and emojis, undeniable truths Hillary Clinton doesn't seem to understand. In the coming weeks and months, while Mr. Trump is releasing detailed policy proposals to deal with the issues plaguing young America, Clinton will likely still be doing what she seemingly does best, pandering until she's blue in the face.

While the past eight years may feel distant to some, the wounds, full of devastation and pain, inflicted by President Obama's agenda remain fresh.

As a young black male, I've seen my community flailing and struggling due to the disastrous impacts of the Obama political agenda, and I refuse to allow the possibility of a Clinton presidency to extend that suffering. After eight years of promises of hope and change, 2 out of 5 black boys and girls live in poverty. Compared to white Americans, African-Americans are more likely to own fewer homes and are more likely to be unemployed.

The policies of the Obama administration have done little to help people of color, yet Clinton has unwavering defended them at every turn. In a recent speech in Detroit, Trump pointedly said: "If Hillary Clinton's goal was to inflict pain on the African-American community, she could not have done a better job."

Trump's message to young people of color is simple: what do you have to lose?

In my young optimistic eyes, after the last eight years of the Obama presidency, there is little left to lose. There is only room to do better, and there is only one goal: to make America great for every American.

http://time.com/4470565/teens-for-trump/
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: sirs on August 30, 2016, 03:18:51 PM: ....standard leftist kneejerk rebuttal.....He's an Uncle Tom, and doesn't represent the rest of those blacks
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Plane on August 30, 2016, 04:05:21 PM: As our government continues to grow geriatric , the involvement of the young grows more important.

Incumbency is such an advantage that the turnover in congress has almost stopped.

Guys like this need to learn the ropes , get in the game and speak up for themselves.

Otherwise what will the young do in our society when they realize how much the previous generation has already spent their earnings?
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on August 30, 2016, 11:58:35 PM: In a country of 330,000,000 there will be a lot of oddballs.
Does this kid know that Trump would not have allowed his family to move into a Trump condo, even if they had the money?
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: sirs on August 31, 2016, 12:12:16 AM: Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on August 30, 2016, 11:58:35 PM
Does this kid know that Trump would not have allowed his family to move into a Trump condo, even if they had the money?

And why's that?? Evidence please
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on August 31, 2016, 01:36:08 AM: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/15/doj-trump-s-early-businesses-blocked-blacks.html
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: sirs on August 31, 2016, 01:53:14 AM: So, per YOUR evidence, not only is this over 40YEARS AGO, not only was their no guilty decision, even if all the supposed "secret code words & letters were used", blacks weren't prevented from renting anything, as you claimed

Do you ever tire of being wrong so often??

Now, shall we start posting pics of all the blacks that currently rent Trump condos?
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on August 31, 2016, 10:35:15 AM: Yes Sirs.....
but gays should support Hillary in spite of her opposition to gay marriage as recently as 2004 (not 40 years ago!)

::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on August 31, 2016, 01:30:40 PM: This kid has no vote, he is underage.
He will only impress dogwhistle racists like CU4 and sirs.
Trump will poll lower among Black Americans than anyone in recent memory.

When Black kids sing "Fight the Power", Trump is the embodiment of the Power.

When Black people talk about how they would like to Stick it to the Man, Trump IS that man.
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: sirs on August 31, 2016, 01:32:46 PM: Completely trying to ignore how wrong he was with his housing denial claims about Trump, but bravo on the deflection rant
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on August 31, 2016, 01:36:03 PM: You ask for proof, I give it and you bitch about it. Go fuck yourself, sirs.
Crawl into a Jeffery's Tube and await the Tribble Apocalypse.
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: sirs on August 31, 2016, 02:17:43 PM: You proved you were wrong. You claimed this black yount man, regardless of his financial status would not be allowed to buy into a Trump Condo. Not only is your "proof" 40years old, it demonstrates that ANY Black could. Your inference also implied an ongoing issue, in which your "proof" demonstrates no such guilty action, of any sort, be it now, or 40years ago.

Like I said, to you get a thrill out of being shown to be wrong, so often??
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on August 31, 2016, 03:37:45 PM: yeah sure Trump is a racist....lol

Mexican Woman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dahqHQ8qkjw

Black Female:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxaKUo5naoY
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on August 31, 2016, 04:39:55 PM: You claimed this black young man, regardless of his financial status would not be allowed to buy into a Trump Condo.

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No, I did not. I said that this kid was unaware that Trump was found guilty of refusing to rent to Black people. I suggested that his finding this out might cause him to rethink his position.
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: sirs on August 31, 2016, 05:21:09 PM: Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on August 31, 2016, 04:39:55 PM
You claimed this black young man, regardless of his financial status would not be allowed to buy into a Trump Condo.

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No, I did not.

YES, YOU DID....."Does this kid know that Trump would not have allowed his family to move into a Trump condo, even if they had the money?"

Your own "proof" demonstrated you were wrong. He was not found guilty of anything, nor were any blacks denied the ability to move into any Trump Condo. Your own fricken "proof" said that ::)
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Plane on August 31, 2016, 10:05:59 PM: Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on August 31, 2016, 01:30:40 PM

When Black kids sing "Fight the Power", Trump is the embodiment of the Power.

When Black people talk about how they would like to Stick it to the Man, Trump IS that man.

Hillary gets a pass on being entrenched in the power , how exactly?
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 01, 2016, 09:12:53 AM: It proved that Trump had a policy of discrimination. You don't know shit, sirs.
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: sirs on September 01, 2016, 10:15:15 AM: It proved he might have had something like that. .....40 YEARSCAGO
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 01, 2016, 07:09:09 PM: No, it didn't. I read it, and you are wrong.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, like you always are.
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: sirs on September 01, 2016, 07:26:25 PM: I did read it...ALL OF IT....it happend 40 fricken years ago, and the legal results included NOT GUILTY......to ANYTHING. Your own "proof" proves you wrong.......again
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 01, 2016, 08:39:18 PM: Trump has refused to rent to Blacks many times, and so did his father before him.
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: sirs on September 01, 2016, 11:59:51 PM: Proof is required. Your last effort at "proof" demonstrated no such guilty conviction, and instead reported that blacks could. Ball in your court. ... your say so, just doesn't cut it
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 02, 2016, 12:17:39 PM: You claim I said he would not have been allowed to buy a Trump condo.
I didn't say that. Obviously he would not have tried, because he was not yet born.
The unborn are never allowed to buy real estate. I know that, but apparently you do not.

I said HIS FAMILY would have been turned down, because Trump was discriminating against Blacks.
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: sirs on September 02, 2016, 12:33:14 PM: Yea, you did.....I even quoted you, when in fact your own "proof" demonstrated that blacks did buy into Trump Condos. And no, we all know you weren't referring to this young man specifically, that it was a general, albeit erroneous accusation, on your part. It also proved that Trump wasn't found guilty to any discrimination or preventing of blacks from purchasing into any of his condos. I indeed admire the special skill you have in proving yourself wrong

News flash, "Would have been turned down" (because of skin color) is the same as being prevented based on skin color, and thus open to prosecution. Now if someone, (regardless of skin color) is turned down because they didn't have the financial ability to support such a purchase, there's absolutely noting wrong or discriminatory in that decision making
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 02, 2016, 04:43:46 PM: Oh, blah blah,blah, who the fuck cares. You are seriously neurotic sirs.
Or possibly a masochist, because as you know, every exchange I have with you is to tell you to go fuck yourself.
Trump will lose and Hillary will allow you hate the president for her gender instead of his color.
Maybe the next Democrat will be gay so you can have another reason.
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: sirs on September 02, 2016, 05:26:56 PM: You apparently care, because you keep responding....trying to deflect every which way to take the spotlight of yet another erroneous accusation

So no actual proof of racial discrimination...no actual proof of any prosecution & guilty charge...no actual proof of Trump denying any blacks the ability to buy into his condo, based on their skin color......we're just to take your transparent, anti-Trump say so. Kinda like we're simply to believe Clinton said she turned over all e-mails that was work related and ONLY deleted personal e-mails, that had nothing to do with her tenure as SoS. Riiiiiight

We appreciate the validation
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Plane on September 02, 2016, 11:08:07 PM: Can't I dislike Hillary Clinton for certain features of her personality , without reference at all to her anatomy?
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 03, 2016, 12:09:37 AM: Can't I dislike Hillary Clinton for certain features of her personality , without reference at all to her anatomy?

I am afraid not. Not convincingly, anyway.
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: sirs on September 03, 2016, 12:26:05 AM: See Plane......it's that ingrained. Any criticism of Obama, must be race driven. Any criticism of Clinton must be gender driven
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 03, 2016, 12:52:38 PM: Quote from: sirs on August 31, 2016, 05:21:09 PM
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on August 31, 2016, 04:39:55 PM
You claimed this black young man, regardless of his financial status would not be allowed to buy into a Trump Condo.

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No, I did not.

YES, YOU DID....."Does this kid know that Trump would not have allowed his family to move into a Trump condo, even if they had the money?"

Your own "proof" demonstrated you were wrong. He was not found guilty of anything, nor were any blacks denied the ability to move into any Trump Condo. Your own fricken "proof" said that ::)
Quote from: Plane on August 31, 2016, 10:05:59 PM
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on August 31, 2016, 01:30:40 PM

When Black kids sing "Fight the Power", Trump is the embodiment of the Power.

When Black people talk about how they would like to Stick it to the Man, Trump IS that man.

Hillary gets a pass on being entrenched in the power , how exactly?
She is certainly NOT "The Man".
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: sirs on September 03, 2016, 01:44:26 PM: Who ever claimed she was, Professor literal?? Her gender, just as Obama's skin color, HAS ZERO TO DO WITH ANY OF THE POLICIES THEY PUSH. It's the policies and ideology they push as the WHY they are criticized.

Clinton 1 was criticized for his leftist policies. John Kerry was criticized for his uber left positions. How is it that Clinton 2 can't be?? She could be a he from Ohio, as Caucasion as me, or from the planet of Naboo, with 4 breasts and 3 legs. If IT was pushing the same policies as Clinton, they'd be criticized for THAT, & not some misdirected effort to argue a point no one is making, regarding looks of any kind
Title: Re: "I'm a Young Black Man and I Support Donald Trump" - Time Magazine
Post by: Plane on September 04, 2016, 03:15:11 AM: Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on September 03, 2016, 12:09:37 AM
Can't I dislike Hillary Clinton for certain features of her personality , without reference at all to her anatomy?

I am afraid not. Not convincingly, anyway.

I think this defines prejudice on your part , not mine.