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Lanya

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The Plot
« on: May 16, 2008, 03:44:30 PM »
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In November 1934, federal investigators uncovered an amazing plot involving some two dozen senior businessmen, a good many of them Wall Street financiers, to topple the government of the United States and install a fascist dictatorship.
 Roth?s novel is developed from several strands of this factual account; he assumed the plot is actually carried out, whereas in fact an alert FDR shut it down but stopped short of retaliatory measures against the plotters. A key element of the plot involved a retired prominent general who was to have raised a private army of 500,000 men from unemployed veterans and who blew the whistle when he learned more of what the plot entailed. The plot was heavily funded and well developed and had strong links with fascist forces abroad. A story in the New York Times and several other newspapers reported on it, and a special Congressional committee was created to conduct an investigation. The records of this committee were scrubbed and sealed away in the National Archives, where they have only recently been made available.

The Congressional committee kept the names of many of the participants under wraps and no criminal action was ever brought against them. But a few names have leaked out. And one is Prescott Bush, the grandfather of the incumbent president. Prescott Bush was of course deep into the business of the Hamburg-America Lines, and had tight relations throughout this period with the new Government that had come to power in Germany a year earlier under Chancellor Aldoph Hitler. It appears that Bush was to have formed a key liaison for the group with the new German government.

Prescott Bush, of course, went on to service as a U.S. Senator from Connecticut, and his son, George H.W. Bush emerged from World War II as a hero.

The Plot Against America portrayed in this episode of the BBC series ?Document? gives fascinating insight into a dark and little known piece of American history in which the nation stood on the brink of betrayal. The role of the most powerful political dynastic family in the nation?s history in this whole affair is shocking.

http://harpers.org/archive/2007/07/hbc-90000651
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Re: The Plot
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2008, 03:52:01 PM »
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The role of the most powerful political dynastic family in the nation?s history in this whole affair is shocking.


the Kennedys were also involved?

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Re: The Plot
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2008, 04:47:17 PM »
as were the Harrimans brothers. That is who Bush worked for. And they were advisers to Roosevelt and Truman as well as a Governor of NY.

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2008, 04:54:24 PM »
Old Joe Kennedy, being Irish and all, was anti-British, and so was accused of being pro-German.
John and Bobby and of course, Olebush and Juniorbush were either small children or yet unborn.

The plan was to get Marine General Smedley Butler to aid in the overthrow of the FDR administration and to impose a military government. Butler refused and denounced the co-conspirators, who apparently were too important to prosecute.
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2008, 05:16:39 PM »
There is very little evidence, if any, that there was ever an actual plot. The nation was never "on the brink of betrayal." Even if, and that is a very big if, Gerald MacGuire was plotting some sort of overthrow, he had no real means of achieving it.
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2008, 05:57:06 PM »
But....but......the Bush family is diabolically evil, Prince
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2008, 06:27:22 PM »
Yes, I know, Sirs. I keep waiting for someone to produce documents that prove Prescott Bush was personally responsible for the Reichstag fire. And you know, you just know, that some Bush or other was directly responsible for the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand. And at some point, we will be given undeniable proof that some Bush relative was responsible for the Industrial Revolution that has lead us all into the horror that is global warming.
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2008, 12:57:56 AM »
Precisely.  Lanya?, you have those records yet?
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2008, 02:13:33 PM »
What records?
I'm posting a story on stuff that's recently been made available from the National Archives.  Maybe you should ask them. 
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2008, 02:44:51 PM »
Who's "them", and ask "them" what?  Given the source of who's posting it, and the track record of posts you provide, gives the distinct implication of how diabolically evil one of the most powerful political dynastic family in the nation's history, is supposed to be

If that wasn't your implication, what would it have been, outside of your daily swipe at anything and everything, Bush?   It's clear there's no proof of anything nefarious by Prescott Bush.  Can't say the same about the Kennedy's, like Chappaquiddic now, can we, yet I've never seen you posit a story about them.
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