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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Christians4LessGvt on March 04, 2013, 05:17:05 PM

Title: This dude has a doctorate in common sense!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on March 04, 2013, 05:17:05 PM
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Title: Re: This dude has a doctorate in common sense!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on March 05, 2013, 10:39:03 AM
Yeah, we'll all be safer when everybody's packin' heat!
Title: Re: This dude has a doctorate in common sense!
Post by: sirs on March 05, 2013, 11:09:28 AM
Statistically speaking, yea, as long as its "packing" concealed.  But of course this isn't about mandating "everyone" to be "packing", this about the freedom of anyone (not convicted of a felony or diagnosed with a mental disorder) to choose to "pack", if they so wish

Title: Re: This dude has a doctorate in common sense!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on March 05, 2013, 01:05:11 PM
Yeah, that would work.

Look at the low, low murder rate in the Dem. Rep of Congo and Somalia. The only restriction to gun ownership there is poverty.
Title: Re: This dude has a doctorate in common sense!
Post by: sirs on March 05, 2013, 01:17:47 PM
LOL....comparing the U.S. to Somalia...riiiiiight.  Naaa, I'll just look at our OWN stats that support the claim that areas with more permissive gun laws have lower violent crime than those with extremely strict ones, and that those with felonies and diagnosed mental disease would be prevented from having one
Title: Re: This dude has a doctorate in common sense!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on March 05, 2013, 03:37:39 PM
Your facts are bogus.

Of course, you are opposed to having anyone checked for insanity to get a gun permit, so your "solution" to the multiple massacre problem is to do nothing, except to suggest that after a massacre it is a good time to buy stock in weapons companies,or to buy a companion for your guns,lest they get lonely.
Title: Re: This dude has a doctorate in common sense!
Post by: sirs on March 05, 2013, 03:48:37 PM
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on March 05, 2013, 03:37:39 PM
Your facts are bogus.

And your claim that the facts are bogus, is bogus.  As for the rest of the rant....we'll just mark that down into the hyperbiolic irrational category

Title: Re: This dude has a doctorate in common sense!
Post by: Plane on March 05, 2013, 09:22:40 PM
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on March 05, 2013, 10:39:03 AM
Yeah, we'll all be safer when everybody's packin' heat!

Yes there is good reason to think so.

And if you have to go all the way to the Congo to find a contrary case , I feel pretty good about comparisons between neighboring states in the US.
Title: Re: This dude has a doctorate in common sense!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on March 05, 2013, 09:44:58 PM
No one will be safer, the massacres will continue and the gun nuts will get ever nuttier.
Title: Re: This dude has a doctorate in common sense!
Post by: Plane on March 05, 2013, 10:09:37 PM
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on March 05, 2013, 09:44:58 PM
No one will be safer, the massacres will continue and the gun nuts will get ever nuttier.

It is a fact that guns are more availible than ever and that crime is coincidentally down.

In the USA anyway.
Title: Re: This dude has a doctorate in common sense!
Post by: sirs on March 06, 2013, 01:10:57 AM
Far better and safer to have a firearm and never have to use it, then to have not had one, when it could have saved a life