Last Word on Pathetic Ayers Accusations

[Brassmask]

Did Obama set any bombs when he was four with Ayers?

Has Obama ever said he condoned Ayers actions when Obama was four?

    Main article: Obama–Ayers controversy

Bill Ayers and Barack Obama at one time lived in the same neighborhood in the city of Chicago, and both had worked on education reform in the state of Illinois. The two met "at a luncheon meeting about school reform."[41] Obama was named to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge Project Board of Directors to oversee the distribution of grants in Chicago. Later in 1995, Ayers hosted "a coffee" for "Mr. Obama's first run for office."[42] The two served on the board of a community anti-poverty group, the Woods Fund of Chicago, between 2000 and 2002, during which time the board met twelve times.[42] In April 2001, Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's re-election fund to the Illinois State Senate.[41] Since 2002, there has been little linking Obama and Ayers.[42] The senator said in September 2008 that he hadn't "seen him in a year-and-a-half."[43] In February 2008, Obama spokesman Bill Burton released a statement from the senator about the relationship between the two: "Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous."[41] CNN's review of project records found nothing to suggest anything inappropriate in the non-profit projects in which the two men were involved.[44] Internal reviews by The New York Times, The Washington Post, Time magazine, The Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The New Republic "have said that their reporting doesn't support the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship".[45]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Ayers#Radical_history

All this wailing and gnashing of teeth over a tenuous association, at best, is, as I've said, a pathetic, tawdry and desperate attempt to drag down a great man to the level that another once great man has allowed himself to be dragged in the hopes of making the election close enough to win by electoral votes or at worst to, once again, steal without much outrage.

[Plane]

Did Obama set any bombs when he was four with Ayers?

Has Obama ever said he condoned Ayers actions when Obama was four?

    Main article: Obama–Ayers controversy

Bill Ayers and Barack Obama at one time lived in the same neighborhood in the city of Chicago, and both had worked on education reform in the state of Illinois. The two met "at a luncheon meeting about school reform."[41] Obama was named to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge Project Board of Directors to oversee the distribution of grants in Chicago. Later in 1995, Ayers hosted "a coffee" for "Mr. Obama's first run for office."[42] The two served on the board of a community anti-poverty group, the Woods Fund of Chicago, between 2000 and 2002, during which time the board met twelve times.[42] In April 2001, Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's re-election fund to the Illinois State Senate.[41] Since 2002, there has been little linking Obama and Ayers.[42] The senator said in September 2008 that he hadn't "seen him in a year-and-a-half."[43] In February 2008, Obama spokesman Bill Burton released a statement from the senator about the relationship between the two: "Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous."[41] CNN's review of project records found nothing to suggest anything inappropriate in the non-profit projects in which the two men were involved.[44] Internal reviews by The New York Times, The Washington Post, Time magazine, The Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The New Republic "have said that their reporting doesn't support the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship".[45]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Ayers#Radical_history

All this wailing and gnashing of teeth over a tenuous association, at best, is, as I've said, a pathetic, tawdry and desperate attempt to drag down a great man to the level that another once great man has allowed himself to be dragged in the hopes of making the election close enough to win by electoral votes or at worst to, once again, steal without much outrage.

You would hire someone tohead one of your projects , that you had a tenuous relationship with?

[Michael Tee]

<<You would hire someone tohead one of your projects , that you had a tenuous relationship with?>>

Faster than McSame picked Conservative Barbie to be his running mate.

[Christians4LessGvt]

"Did Obama set any bombs when he was four with Ayers?
Has Obama ever said he condoned Ayers actions when Obama was four?"

No, according to CNN & the New York Times unrepentant American domestic terrorist
Bill Ayers only hosted Obama's political "coming out party" at his house in 1995. Why
would an adult Obama (not 4 years old) associate with a man that has never apologized
for fire-bombing an American's home, planting bombs at the Pentagon and the US Capital,
and in fact Ayers expressed regret only for the fact that he didn't carry out more
terrorism in America?

[Michael Tee]

<<Why would an adult Obama (not 4 years old) associate with a man that has never apologized
for fire-bombing an American's home, planting bombs at the Pentagon and the US Capital,
and in fact Ayers expressed regret only for the fact that he didn't carry out more>>

Obama can't answer that because he is running for office, and needs all the votes he can get, so I will answer it for him.

The war against Viet Nam was a criminal abomination which had to be stopped by any means necessary.

"By any means necessary" included bombing in America as well as in Viet Nam.  It included "bringing the war home" which meant that conditions of warfare had to be imposed in which bombs exploded in America, not only in Viet Nam, killing Americans, not only Vietnamese.   When American civilians as well as Vietnamese civilians began to die in the war, then and only then would the American people begin to recognize the magnitude of the crimes that were being committed in their name in Viet Nam.  Then and only then would the American people begin to demand implacably that the war come to an end.  Then and only then would American resistance to the war effort reach such proportions that further prosecution of the war would become an impossibility.

Bill Ayers is an American hero who took part in the effort to end the war in Viet Nam "by any means necessary," thereby saving millions more innocent Vietnamese lives.There is no need for Ayers to explain or worse yet apologize for his association with Bill Ayers.  Bill Ayers honours Obama by his friendship.

[sirs]

Did Obama set any bombs when he was four with Ayers?

Wrong question:  When did Obama learn of Ayers' domestic terrorist past and lack of repentence for it??

[Xavier_Onassis]

Wrong question:  When did Obama learn of Ayers' domestic terrorist past and lack of repentence for it??



No, he asked the right question: Ayers is no longer bombing anything, and in fact, is a respected member of the Illinois State University System.

There is no "right question" so far as you are concerned. You would not vote for Obama under any circumstances. There is nothing he could say or do, so you are, for the purposes of this discussion entirely irrelevant.

[BT]

The question is and always has been whether Obama has been completely forthcoming in answering questions about his relationship with William Ayers. To be charitable he has dribbled out tidbits piecemeal, very reminiscent of how he handled the Wright Affair.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEajOYOE5Yw[/youtube]

[sirs]

BINGO

[Xavier_Onassis]

There is no "Bingo" here. Ayers at most is a sometime political ally. Ayers himself is no threat to anyone.
There is no reason to believe that any contact with Ayers is in any way contagious.

Juniorbush invited Grover Norquist to the Whitehouse. Norquist is always saying that he wants to drown the government in the bathtub. That sounds like anarchy to me, and still, no one called for stupid witch hunt trails over Norquist, who was closer to the GOP than Obama was to Ayers.

The only people who think that Ayers is in any way important are clowns who would never vote for Obama, anyway. Obama has no reason to try to please them at all, it's more fun to just let them stew in their own juices and sputter about ineffectually.

[sirs]

There is no "Bingo" here. Ayers at most is a sometime political ally. Ayers himself is no threat to anyone.

A) this has never been about if Ayers is currently is a threat, (so you can drop that misrepresentation effort.  It merely makes you look desperate & grasping)
B) This has always been about Obama's relationship with a KNOWN unrepentant terrorist, and his cover-up of it, in which case Bt's post is indeed "bingo"

The only ones who think Ayers is completely irrelevant to any discussion, are those who had every intention of voting for Obama regardless, just so long as there was a (D) after his name

[Xavier_Onassis]

There is no "bingo"

The state of Illinois has decided that Ayers is a very productive and honorable member of the educational community. If it has not required him to get down on his knees like Jimmy Swaggart used to do, sobbing and weeping and repenting, then I fail to see why Obama, or Palin, or McCain or you should demand it.

It is a total non issue for people who like Obama. It is a non-issue for the dwindling numbers of McCain fans. The only people to who it conceivably might matter are the undecided voters, who either are aware that Ayers was protesting a horrible misbegotten war, or are too young to give a sh*t about something that happened forty-four years ago, around the time that Sarah Palin was born.

You are wasting innocent electrons on this non-issue. Rant on, I am outta here.

[sirs]

Bingo....The only ones who think Ayers is completely irrelevant to any discussion, are those who had every intention of voting for Obama regardless, just so long as there was a (D) after his name

[Michael Tee]

<<Bingo....The only ones who think Ayers is completely irrelevant to any discussion, are those who had every intention of voting for Obama regardless, just so long as there was a (D) after his name>>

He's completely irrelevant because he's completely rehabilitated himself.  He was "Citizen of the Year."  He's helped thousands of students.  He's a caring and concerned citizen, not the least of whose accomplishments being to have helped along the first black Presidential candidate of a major party in the history of the racist United States of America, an historic achievement.

The only negative in the story, according to you, is that Ayers has failed to gratify his sadistic persecutors and irrational grudge-holders everywhere with a breast-beating, public orgy of self-accusation, repentance and self-abasement strangely typical of some of the Stalin-era People's Republics you pretend to despise so much.

[sirs]

<<Bingo....The only ones who think Ayers is completely irrelevant to any discussion, are those who had every intention of voting for Obama regardless, just so long as there was a (D) after his name>>

He's completely irrelevant because...

because the left and Oblather kool-aide drinkers say so?  I think not.  and last I heard, he remains unrepentant, and wished he had caused more damage & destruction, HARLDY someone who is "rehabilitated".  If he were, Oblather would be on the stump arguing precisely that.

Question remains, when did Oblather learn of Ayer's terrorist past??  Buellor?  Buellor?