Ahmedinijad & Obama wont like this!

[Christians4LessGvt]

US troops to stay until 2011
15/10/2008 19:06  - (SA)   

Baghdad - Washington and Baghdad have reached a final agreement after months of negotiation on a landmark pact to allow US troops to stay in Iraq until the end of 2011, US and Iraqi officials said on Wednesday.

The two countries also reached a compromise on the difficult question of whether US troops could be tried in Iraqi courts for crimes committed while deployed in Iraq, an issue that both sides had long said was holding up the pact.

The agreement was submitted to Iraqi political leaders for approval, a first step toward ratifying it in the Iraqi parliament, Iraq's government spokesperson Ali al-Dabbagh said.

A US official in Washington confirmed that the final draft had been agreed by both sides and would require US troops to leave by the end of 2011 unless Iraq asks them to stay longer.

The administration of President George W Bush had long resisted committing to timetables for withdrawing from Iraq, and US officials had in the past declined to comment on any deadlines that might be contained in the agreement.

Iraqi government spokesperson Ali al-Dabbagh said the agreement envisions US forces withdrawing from Iraqi towns and villages by the middle of next year, and withdraw completely from the country within three years unless a new pact is agreed.

"The withdrawal is to be achieved in three years. In 2011, the government at that time will determine whether it needs a new pact or not, and what type of pact will depend on the challenges it faces," he told Reuters.

Immunity

On the question of immunity for US troops, he said: "Inside their bases, they will be under American law.

Iraqi judicial law will be implemented in case these forces commit a serious and deliberate felony outside their military bases and when off duty."

The US official confirmed that a compromise had been reached on the immunity issue, but gave no further details.

The bilateral pact replaces a UN Security Council resolution enacted after the US invasion of Iraq in 2003 and will give Iraq's elected government authority over the US troop presence for the first time.

Among other effects of the change, the US military will no longer be able to hold prisoners without charging them with crimes under Iraqi law.

US forces are now holding 18 000 prisoners, the vast majority of whom have not been charged.

The pact still must be approved by a council of Iraqi political leaders, the Iraqi Cabinet and Parliament.

Should they fail to approve it by the end of the year, Dabbagh said Baghdad will seek an extension of the UN mandate.

The inclusion of a 2011 deadline in the pact could have political ramifications in the United States.

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has said he wants to withdraw all US combat troops from Iraq by the middle of 2010, while Republican John McCain has resisted setting any deadlines.

- Reuters


http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_2410383,00.html

[richpo64]

This is exactly what Obama wants. He discussed it (he denies it of course) when he made his first and only trip to Iraq. This way, if he's president, he gets to look like he brought the troops home thus making the lunatic left happy.

[Plane]

Maybe not.


In January the government of Iraq is set to declare its right to hold all foreigners working in Iraq as subject to Iraqi law.

Our Troops depend a lot on their contracted support , a few incidents of run in with Iraqi law enforcement and courts might deplete the ranks of contractors a good bit.

Iran had this problem with the Shah , it got so bad that the Shah's guys were kidnapping and imprisoning contract workers to get the contracts completed even though the bill was not being payed.

[Xavier_Onassis]

This is exactly what Obama wants. He discussed it (he denies it of course) when he made his first and only trip to Iraq. This way, if he's president, he gets to look like he brought the troops home thus making the lunatic left happy.

Anyone who opposes the entire Iraq involvement is SANE, not "Loony Left" This would include Ron Paul, who is certainly net a leftist.

Ten Billion dollars a month, One hundred twenty billion dollars a year, over six years. Nearly four thousand dead American soldiers, 30,000 wounded, some who will never walk or talk again, three million or more Iraqis driven from their homes.

Yeah, sure opposing all that is sure loony.

The US will withdraw when the administration withdraws them. If Obama is president or should I say WHEN he is president, this will be sooner than it would be with McCain, who would prefer a colonial approach, with satraps installed Big Oil can bribe.

[Plane]

This is exactly what Obama wants. He discussed it (he denies it of course) when he made his first and only trip to Iraq. This way, if he's president, he gets to look like he brought the troops home thus making the lunatic left happy.

Anyone who opposes the entire Iraq involvement is SANE, not "Loony Left" This would include Ron Paul, who is certainly net a leftist.

Ten Billion dollars a month, One hundred twenty billion dollars a year, over six years. Nearly four thousand dead American soldiers, 30,000 wounded, some who will never walk or talk again, three million or more Iraqis driven from their homes.

Yeah, sure opposing all that is sure loony.

The US will withdraw when the administration withdraws them. If Obama is president or should I say WHEN he is president, this will be sooner than it would be with McCain, who would prefer a colonial approach, with satraps installed Big Oil can bribe.

Can Satraps be elected?