Fiorina

[Plane]

  You mean it doesn't matter what the Democrats actually do or what the situation really is?

    Or is President Obama deporting more than ever , but doing it nicely?

[Xavier_Onassis]

He is doing a more professional job of it than Juniorbush, it appears.

The people being deported would not be voters, but they might be friends, relatives or co workers of those who are.
I don't think deporting a thief or a rapist would be a problem for most people. People do not want thieves or rapists in their communities, even if they are from the same country.

[Plane]

He is doing a more professional job of it than Juniorbush, it appears.

The people being deported would not be voters,

Why not? 

but they might be friends, relatives or co workers of those who are.
I don't think deporting a thief or a rapist would be a problem for most people. People do not want thieves or rapists in their communities, even if they are from the same country.

Wait a minute, is this your opinion or are you quoting Donald Trump?

[Xavier_Onassis]

You sure ask really stupid questions.

Come back when you are smarter.

[Christians4LessGvt]

illegal immigration isn't down because Obama wanted it stopped
the reason less mexicans are running across the border illegally (if that is even actually true)
is because the economy has not produced jobs under Obama.
no jobs = no illegals
it proves the point....it's not the point Obama was trying to make, but it is a fact
if we denied illegals jobs.....they would stop coming

[Plane]

You sure ask really stupid questions.

Come back when you are smarter.

    You mean it is dumb to expect someone who is deportable to have little respect for American law and perhaps vote contrary to the rules?

      Or is it dumb of me to note that you note  same fact that got Trump fired for noting?

      Perhaps I missed the irony that you obviously intended?


     By the way I'm not trying to do dumb , I am trying to do Socratic.

    Perhaps I need the practice?

[sirs]

Trump was right on point...just didn't articulate it well enough.  There are a whole host of other reasons he'd likely be my least favored candidate, but he's not wrong on what he was trying to convey regarding ILLEGAL immigration, and this Government's woeful and inexcusable lack of enforcing existing immigration law

Didn't we just hear about an illegal immigrant WHO HAD BEEN DEPORTED 5 TIMES ALREADY, who found "sanctuary" in San Francisco, and has now murdered a woman, with an illegal firearm, he had no legal right to carry. 

(of course, watch how the effort is made to make this about the gun, and not the uillegal immigrant who was illegally here in the 1st place, and ALLOWED TO REMAIN, VIA THE CITY'S SANCTUARY STATUS)

[Xavier_Onassis]

If there were not so many guns in circulation, he would not have had that gun.

Too many guns means too many people get shot.

Trump is a dolt and when you see that the Republican't candidate has once more lost because he pissed off Hispanics, at least you will have someone to blame.

[sirs]

If there were not so many guns in circulation, he would not have had that gun.

LOL...see?  NEWS FLASH....It has nothing to do with #'s.  The more guns doesn't make them any less legal or less obtainable, to those who illegally get them to begin with.  The only way that occurs is ZERO guns.  The only saving grace is knowing that for this 1 life cruelly taken by a gun, at the hands of this ILLEGAL Immigrant, who should have been in Federal Prison, if the Government actually was doing its job, at least 7 were saved with one

[Plane]

If there were not so many guns in circulation, he would not have had that gun.

No.

If there were only one pistol in that entire town , it would be a guy like this one who would have brought it there.

[Xavier_Onassis]

If there were one pistol in any town, it would belong to some cop. Get serious.

[sirs]

Not the illegal ones.  You keep forgetting what makes a criminal a criminal....they have no intention of following the law, current or proposed.

[Xavier_Onassis]

If there were one pistol in town, that would be pretty much science fiction anywhere on this planet.

The more guns there are, the easier it is for thieves to get one.

The more guns there are, the more people will get shot.

Now if everyone wore a gun all the time, there would STILL be more people getting shot, just for different reasons.
Tombstone was not generally noted for its being a safe place to live in the 1880's.

[sirs]

Speaking of science fiction would be the notion there would be only 1 gun in town.  The less guns there are just makes getting them JUST AS ILLEGAL, for the CRIMINAL, who will not be abiding by any current or proposed gun laws

You can't run around the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution of the Unitied States.  There will ALWAYS BE GUNS IN THIS COUNTRY.  No amount of fantasizing where just good non-racist police officers have them, and noone else is going to change reality, and more importantly, our laws that Govern this country, as directed by our CONSTITUTION

And given current reality, THE MORE GUNS IN LAW ABIDING HANDS MEANS MORE LIVES SAVED THAN THOSE TAKEN

And no one is advocating Tombstone, Dr Deflection, so you can give that deflective effort a rest

[Xavier_Onassis]

If you carry your gun-loving views to their logical conclusion, what you end up with is the spitting image of Tombstones, only with more effective guns.

More guns will result in more people getting shot. That is simply a fact.

I was not the one that speculated about San Francisco with only one gun, I was only commenting on it