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Re: Fiorina
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2015, 12:52:29 PM »
No, that's an illogical conclusion, since no one is advocating some wide open, everyone able to open carry their firearms.  Not even the evil NRA is advocating that "conclusion".  Which brings us back to a more realistic logical conclusion, where more guns in law abiding hands, means more lives saved.  That's a simple fact.  I realize you could care less about all those extra lives lost to push some ideological fantasy, but thankfully there's still enough of us more rational folks, supported by the rule of law, to put a kabosh on that fascist goal of disarming the law abiding populace
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« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2015, 01:14:39 PM »
More guns will result in more people getting shot. That is simply a fact.

Fiction....see Switzerland.
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« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2015, 01:19:33 PM »
D'oh
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« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2015, 03:52:44 PM »
Switzerland is VERY CAREFUL who it allows to own guns and ammo. The US is not.
If Congress were to have the wisdom to pass the laws that the Swiss have regarding guns, surely fewer people would be shot, and fewer would go through the hassle of all the paperwork, and many would be turned down. I really doubt that Darylann Roof would be able to buy a gun in Oberammegammergau.
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Re: Fiorina
« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2015, 05:01:14 PM »


More guns will result in more people getting shot. That is simply a fact.



It really is not.

Since the sixties the number of guns in circulation has steadily risen , with spurts upwards now and then.

You can't be right , or the number of violent deaths could not have ever reduced during this increase in the number of guns available.

But the number of violent deaths percapata and overall has fallen.

I consider your axiom to be thoroughly disproven merely by this.


But also there are a lot of cities with easier access to guns than Chicago that have lower violence rates, this also alone is enough to make the rule you propose is factual , not.


   You might want to compare the violence rates in London and Tokyo and Canberra to Washington D.C. and Chicago and Atlanta, but this assumes too much.

    Aren't the violent crimes in  London and Tokyo and Canberra that have nothing at all to do with guns , also lower than the same crimes in Washington D.C. and Chicago and Atlanta?

     The number of criminals is the strongest factor in the number of crimes, the tools  of the criminal all have substuites and work arounds where they are forbidden.

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« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2015, 05:21:43 PM »
Facts to a toe-tag liberal, like Kryptonite to Superman
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« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2015, 05:29:47 PM »
Switzerland is VERY CAREFUL who it allows to own guns and ammo.

you keep missing the point
so again....it is not the guns.
Switzerland has tons of guns...and low violence.....so again it is not the guns
you keep saying it is the guns....when Switzerland proves it is not guns...it is possibly training
which I agree.....look at Conceal Carry....very low violence from Conceal Carry after training
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« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2015, 08:30:33 PM »
If there were not so many guns in circulation, he would not have had that gun.


No.

If there were only one pistol in that entire town , it would be a guy like this one who would have brought it there.

If there were one pistol in any town, it would belong to some cop. Get serious.

    Ok, if there were only one gun in town and it belonged to an agent of the government , a guy like this guy would borrow it.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/08/gun-allegedly-used-by-san-francisco-shooting-suspect-belonged-to-federal-agent/

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Re: Fiorina
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2015, 08:38:41 PM »

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« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2015, 09:05:54 PM »
If I had to rank my choices
1) Walker
2) Rubio
3) Jindal
4) Fiorina
5) Kasich
6) Carson
7) Christie
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« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2015, 12:42:32 AM »
318,876,278) Hillary Clinton

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« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2015, 12:49:28 AM »
Lol......you're being generous
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« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2015, 07:58:08 AM »
You won't be making the choices, sirs.
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« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2015, 11:41:53 AM »
So, now I'm not allowed to vote?  Priceless
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« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2015, 12:13:35 PM »
Your vote will not determine  who is elected.

Has this ever happened? Has anyone you voted for ever won by ONE VOTE?
The Electoral College decides who wins the votes of Califirnia, and California will go for the Democratic candidate.  The Donald has insulted  and pissed off every Mexican-American in California.

You are in the minority, sirs:

California demographics Pew 2014
Hispanic 39%
White     38.8%
Asian:    13.3%
Black        5.8%
Other:     3.1%

The pitiful California Republican't Party has not even managed to finagle its way into controlling the state legislature.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/24/in-2014-latinos-will-surpass-whites-as-largest-racialethnic-group-in-california/
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