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Re: The Enlightened and Tolerent hoisted by their own petard
« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2008, 01:13:26 PM »
The "Hometown of KKK Headquarters"? Where was that? Tuskaloosa?  Forty Wayne? It was not a symbolic place to anyone. The KKK was organized and reorganized and split into a variety of splinter groups and none of their headquarters were as symbolic as Philadelphia, Mississippi, which was notorious everywhere as the place where a couple of Jewish radicals and their Black pal were murdered with the aide of the police and no one did a thing about it.

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Re: The Enlightened and Tolerent hoisted by their own petard
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2008, 02:08:51 PM »
The "Hometown of KKK Headquarters"? Where was that? Tuskaloosa?  Forty Wayne? It was not a symbolic place to anyone.

Tuscumbia, Alabama. There is pretty much nothing else of interest there except for the headquarters of the KKK, so it must have been a symbolic nod to the white supremacists.
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« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2008, 02:16:50 PM »
Obviously
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Re: The Enlightened and Tolerent hoisted by their own petard
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2008, 03:43:46 PM »
The same idiots crying about gay marriage ruining their way of life and straight marriages are the same ones who have 50% divorce rate.

it is important to remember the words of the Bible from Malachi 2:16a: “I hate divorce, says the Lord God of Israel.” According to the Bible, God’s plan is that marriage be a lifetime commitment. “So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate” (Matthew 19:6). God realizes, though, that since a marriage involves two sinful human beings, divorce is going to occur. In the Old Testament, He laid down some laws in order to protect the rights of divorcees, especially women (Deuteronomy 24:1-4). Jesus pointed out that these laws were given because of the hardness of people’s hearts, not because they were God’s desire (Matthew 19:8).

http://www.gotquestions.org/divorce-remarriage.html

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Re: The Enlightened and Tolerent hoisted by their own petard
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2008, 04:18:24 PM »
And who the hell is claiming that gay marriage is ruining any person's individual life??     

If a person who thinks that anyone with a walk with God is delusional, posts a scripture for us delusional folks to remember, let's also remember the words of the God; 1 Corinthians 6:9  Or do you not know that the unrighteous, neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God

I'm guessing H now will come back with how God may have referenced 2 men, but since he didn't mention 2 women, that'll be ok, since it wasn't made specific
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Re: The Enlightened and Tolerent hoisted by their own petard
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2008, 04:49:46 PM »
Or do you not know that the unrighteous, neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God

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Inherit the kingdom of God? How is that possible? Doesn't someone have to die before anyone can inherit their stuff?

I thought God was immortal. I never even heard that he was sick.

Maybe that was a bit of scripture that I missed.

The Bible was written by men. They didn't pay a lot of attention to what the girls were up to. In Hebrew culture, the women were supposed to keep to themselves. Lord knows what they were up to.

The thought probably never occurred to them that Lesbian sex was possible.
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Re: The Enlightened and Tolerent hoisted by their own petard
« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2008, 05:27:04 PM »
Mr Literal will simply have to take his question up with God himself
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Re: The Enlightened and Tolerent hoisted by their own petard
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2008, 06:55:43 PM »
All I'm saying is maybe the nutjob religious whackjob morons ought remove the board from their own eye before they worry about the moat in someone else's.


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Re: The Enlightened and Tolerent hoisted by their own petard
« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2008, 07:26:13 PM »
The same idiots crying about gay marriage ruining their way of life and straight marriages are the same ones who have 50% divorce rate.

it is important to remember the words of the Bible from Malachi 2:16a: “I hate divorce, says the Lord God of Israel.” According to the Bible, God’s plan is that marriage be a lifetime commitment. “So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate” (Matthew 19:6). God realizes, though, that since a marriage involves two sinful human beings, divorce is going to occur. In the Old Testament, He laid down some laws in order to protect the rights of divorcees, especially women (Deuteronomy 24:1-4). Jesus pointed out that these laws were given because of the hardness of people’s hearts, not because they were God’s desire (Matthew 19:8).

http://www.gotquestions.org/divorce-remarriage.html

That is a problem just as you describe , but what is the relationship between the two problems?

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Re: The Enlightened and Tolerent hoisted by their own petard
« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2008, 01:13:13 AM »
All I'm saying is maybe the nutjob religious whackjob morons ought remove the board from their own eye before they worry about the moat in someone else's.

Minus the standard insult-o-meter response, couldn't answer the question, could you.
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Re: The Enlightened and Tolerent hoisted by their own petard
« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2008, 02:25:46 AM »
If a person who thinks that anyone with a walk with God is delusional, posts a scripture for us delusional folks to remember, let's also remember the words of the God; 1 Corinthians 6:9  Or do you not know that the unrighteous, neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God

Are any of the above, with the exception of the sexually immoral, denied the ability to marry under US law?

Should they be?

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Re: The Enlightened and Tolerent hoisted by their own petard
« Reply #41 on: November 22, 2008, 02:51:23 AM »
If a person who thinks that anyone with a walk with God is delusional, posts a scripture for us delusional folks to remember, let's also remember the words of the God; 1 Corinthians 6:9  Or do you not know that the unrighteous, neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God

Are any of the above, with the exception of the sexually immoral, denied the ability to marry under US law?

Marry?, no.  Have equal rights under U.S. law, analogous to marriage?, yes


Should they be?

Yes.....marriage is between a man and a woman
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Re: The Enlightened and Tolerent hoisted by their own petard
« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2008, 05:20:28 AM »
If a person who thinks that anyone with a walk with God is delusional, posts a scripture for us delusional folks to remember, let's also remember the words of the God; 1 Corinthians 6:9  Or do you not know that the unrighteous, neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God

Are any of the above, with the exception of the sexually immoral, denied the ability to marry under US law?

Should they be?


Some on that list get arrested, should they all be?

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« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2008, 05:22:30 AM »
Yes.....marriage is between a man and a woman

Marriage is between whomever the law says it is.

The church can define what its rules are regarding marriage, and admit or ban whomever it chooses as it wishes.

The state can do the same regarding civil marriages. The problem is that the overly pious want to impose their religious restrictions on everyone. Since the state does not tell the churches whom it can marry (it never tries to force a Catholic priest to marry divorced people, for example) the church should not be able to tell the state whom it can marry in a civil ceremony.

The only restriction are religious bigots, who want to impose their church's morality on th state, which they should have no right to do in the US. Hebrew laws were written when the Church was the state. Christian laws date back to the time when the R.C. Church was proclaimed the state Church of Rome.

Why the Christians insist on mistranslating words like "inherit" is anyone's guess.
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Re: The Enlightened and Tolerent hoisted by their own petard
« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2008, 05:51:04 AM »
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1 Corinthians 6:9  Or do you not know that the unrighteous, neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God

Did you  ever stop to think they might not want to?

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I'm guessing H now will come back with how God may have referenced 2 men, but since he didn't mention 2 women, that'll be ok, since it wasn't made specific

Idiot.
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