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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: kimba1 on September 25, 2015, 02:27:25 AM

Title: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: kimba1 on September 25, 2015, 02:27:25 AM
I totally believe they should get all the protections all U.S. Citizens get and same treatments. I do think any racial accusations is likely true against them.

But they must I repeat must tolerate our paranoid and totally justified ways. If anyone gets falsely accused .yes get as much justice and money from it . But never expect such action to change . The root cause while does not negate such action is justified.

If this sound convoluted, yes it is but life never had to make sense
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: hnumpah on September 28, 2015, 02:21:13 PM
Been out a few days, but...   No. I remember the days after 9-11...the slurs and epithets against all things Arab and and Muslim, whether they had anything to do with 9-11 or not. I have spent considerable time in the Middle East, all over the Middle East. I have met Arabs and Muslims of every stripe, from Bedouins to Saudi princes, slept in their tents and homes and palaces, and made very good friends there over the years. The slurs and epithets against people I had met and gotten to know and made lasting friends with got to me. The final straw was seeing a Sikh friend who had been beaten because he was mistaken for Muslim. So no, don't accept the irrational hatred some ignorant assholes carry for a people and religion and culture they know nothing about. I can't, and don't.
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 28, 2015, 04:44:14 PM
The idea that all Muslims are agents of conquest in the West are blatantly false in most cases. The Muslims I know I have never had any disputes with.
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: sirs on September 28, 2015, 05:41:31 PM
And who the hell believes that all Muslims are agents of conquest in the West??  Names please
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 28, 2015, 06:55:12 PM
It appears that CU4 wants to kill "all Muzzies". Perhaps you could ask him.

It does not seem to be an uncommon sentiment among right wingers.
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: sirs on September 28, 2015, 07:10:48 PM
Perhaps you could, since the jist of what I get from Cu4, is that he wants to rid the world of those radicalized "muzzies", who insist that the rest of the world either convert, be subjegated, or be forcibly removed from this earth.  I, as most others might, support killing all of them

In other words, unless he actually claims that all Muslims are agents of conquest in the West, you're up the proverbial accusatory creek without that damn paddle.......again
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on September 29, 2015, 07:54:07 AM
It appears that CU4 wants to kill "all Muzzies".

Yes SIRS I want to kill all my Muslim employees that I personally interviewed and hired!....lol

And I really want to kill my best and hardest working employee that is Muslim who I had
Thanksgiving dinner with him and his family a couple of years ago  ::)

Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: sirs on September 29, 2015, 10:39:22 AM
That's kinda what i thought.  Yet another xo claim/accusation, shot down
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on September 29, 2015, 11:07:27 AM
Muslim American: "Freedom and Liberty are "idols" that must be brought down"

Interesting story...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nydBY8Gc-YQ
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 29, 2015, 12:12:19 PM
Muslims have no real chance of changing American ideals, for the same reason that Fundamentalist Christians will not change American ideals, or Mormons or other cults will do this.  They are seen as weird and fanatical. People will tolerate them,  but they will not follow them. Their children will mostly abandon the faith, because they don't like being labeled as weird fanatics. At least the  will lose the beards and the women will lose the headscarves.

There is no reason to persecute them, as they have the right to be weird.
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: sirs on September 29, 2015, 12:15:34 PM
Who here is persecuting "all Muslims"?

Who here supports persecuting "all Muslims"?
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on September 29, 2015, 04:43:56 PM
Their children will mostly abandon the faith

XO ....you are exactly right about that.
My friend/employee Adil now has 14 year old daughter....she is pretty, cute, and bubbly.
His daughter is totally "Americanized" typical teeny-boppy kid...she likes Taylor Swift, tight shorts, makeup, malls, and boys!
The daughter wants nothing to do with cutting a lamb's throat.....lol
Her Mother is petrified a "white christian boy" will be her puppy-love in Jr High.
Adil tells me his wife is crazy and that he doesn't care who his daughter dates as long as it's a nice boy.
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 29, 2015, 09:53:46 PM
The usual experience is that if some family has a wacko religion, as a rule the children will tend to abandon it. When the child is brought up in an isolated community, like Amish Farm colonies Hassidic Jewish neighborhoods or polygamous Mormon compounds, and there is no real contact with the world outside, that is when the child will stick with the faith.
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: sirs on September 30, 2015, 06:59:25 PM
Who here is persecuting "all Muslims"?

Who here supports persecuting "all Muslims"?

Didn't think so
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: kimba1 on September 30, 2015, 10:11:46 PM
my router died and took me awhile to get back.hnumpah brought something up a very dirty public secret up. meaning i`ve never seen address. some  americans are so stupid against muslims they attack non-muslims and don`t care they got the wrong person.

miss america incident is a perfect example notice the issue of attacking the wrong non-muslim seems to never get address.
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 01, 2015, 11:17:31 AM
Beating up on Sikhs is a prime example of this stupidity.

Sikhs wear turbans, because they do not cut their hair. Most Muslims , especially those in the US, do not wear turbans.

Sikhs are law-abiding everywhere, especially in the US.
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: sirs on October 01, 2015, 01:36:42 PM
And who here thinks that's a good thing??  or a justified act??  There are stupid ignorant people in this world, easily swayed by emotion.  The scary part is many of them vote Democrat in this country, as they hear repeated emotionally charged sound bites of how evil Republicans are supposed to be.  But that's the cost of freedom in this country. 

Any unprovoked attack, on ANYONE, be they gay, Christian, transgender, Muslim, elderly, Jewish, black, white, disabled, or even perfectly fit, is to be condemned   
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 01, 2015, 06:41:15 PM
I can't imagine why the average Black, Hispanic, Gay, Asian, Muslim or Sikh person would vote for any of the GOP candidates except perhaps Kasich.

And the Democratic candidate will get the Jewish vote, as always,
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: sirs on October 01, 2015, 07:18:22 PM
As I said,  there are stupid ignorant people, of all persuasions
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: Plane on October 01, 2015, 08:43:26 PM
  Are the Republicans depending entirely on un-hyphenated Americans?
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 02, 2015, 09:03:41 AM
 Are the Republicans depending entirely on un-hyphenated Americans?

Not quite. They are depending on MALE un-hyphenated Americans.

And some of their wives who obey them.
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: sirs on October 02, 2015, 10:41:30 AM
While Democrats depend on stupid, ignorant, if not dead Americans
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on October 02, 2015, 11:13:51 AM
this is who and what the Taxocrats foster to win elections!

(http://s17.postimg.org/bsh2n8sjj/Poor_Me.jpg)
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: sirs on October 02, 2015, 11:28:11 AM
Standard subscription at every Planned Parenthood Clinic
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 02, 2015, 11:58:45 AM
Is that Zimmy on the cover?
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: kimba1 on October 02, 2015, 03:22:09 PM
I`m pointing  out how little outrage such incidents. also I never place political sides on it. I blame both sides . we`re not children so it has nothing to do which did more . both need to deal with it. i`m very inclined to think the two party system itself maybe a factor. two sides of a idiotic coin
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: Plane on October 02, 2015, 10:22:52 PM
i`m very inclined to think the two party system itself maybe a factor. two sides of a idiotic coin

That is worth thinking about.

When we occasionally break free of the well worn rut, we land in a different well worn rut?
Title: Re: Been thinking about muslims in America
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 03, 2015, 10:01:39 AM
A country this big and this diverse should have  more parties and coalition government. What we have does not work well, and lately it has been getting worse.