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Xavier_Onassis

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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #45 on: October 27, 2008, 06:44:13 PM »
So we raise the hurdles?

The taxes are not the only factor , but they do not help keep jobs in the USA.
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What hurdles?

Seriously, if the government dropped every corporate tax to zero, do you really think you would see the price dropped on anything?

I suggest that this would not happen.
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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #46 on: October 27, 2008, 06:49:30 PM »
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>>So, how can you possibly justify driving on roads that were built with other peoples' and your money? [...] Maybe tomorrow, you should go ahead and start hiring your own army, sherriff's patrol and garbage disposal system since you are soooooo tired of being MUGGED at the point of a gun for others' benefit.<<

The problem with this is BT, nor anyone else is saying we should pay no taxes. The things you mentioned are exactly why we need to pay taxes and are the only real function of government. It's not the same as taking from someone to give to someone else you believe needs it. Every dollar you earn represent life. You gave some of your life  (time) to earn it. How dare anyone decide what I gave my life for isn't mine!

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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #47 on: October 27, 2008, 06:50:48 PM »
>>I suggest that this would not happen.<<

Does the government do anything but impede trade?

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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #48 on: October 27, 2008, 06:54:25 PM »
How dare anyone decide what I gave my life for isn't mine!

Psst! what you gave your life for isn't all yours! In fact, most of it you are going to have to give to others.

Not unless you live on some desert island somewhere. If you wish to benefit from others as your customers, service workers, the teachers of your children, the builders of your home, well then, you are going to have to pay them something. They are unlikely to want to work for you for free just to glory in the shine of your amazing personality.

O! The unfairness!
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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #49 on: October 27, 2008, 06:59:19 PM »
He can't be that stupid.

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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #50 on: October 27, 2008, 07:10:35 PM »
Taking property from one person at the point of a gun, no matter the justification, for another's use is a mugging.

I'm inclined to say, "so?"
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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #51 on: October 27, 2008, 08:28:08 PM »
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So, how can you possibly justify driving on roads that were built with other peoples' and your money

Because roads are paved via a flat tax on fuel use, the more you use the more you pay.


How could you justify saying 95% of Americans should get a fuel tax cut and that 5% should shoulder the burden.

Why not round up that 5%, steal their property and send them to a concentration camp, but don't forget to pull their gold fillings.


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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #52 on: October 27, 2008, 08:41:44 PM »
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So, how can you possibly justify driving on roads that were built with other peoples' and your money

Because roads are paved via a flat tax on fuel use, the more you use the more you pay.


How could you justify saying 95% of Americans should get a fuel tax cut and that 5% should shoulder the burden.

Why not round up that 5%, steal their property and send them to a concentration camp, but don't forget to pull their gold fillings.


And the army?

Schools?


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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #53 on: October 27, 2008, 08:42:15 PM »
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I'm inclined to say, "so?"

Will you still say so when they come after you?


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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #54 on: October 27, 2008, 08:47:34 PM »
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And the army?

Schools?

Schools are funded by property tax, calculated at the same millage rate for everyone. If you house is worth more, you pay more.

They funded the military prior to the 16th with tariffs, duties and contributions from the states.




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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #55 on: October 27, 2008, 09:06:05 PM »
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And the army?

Schools?

Schools are funded by property tax, calculated at the same millage rate for everyone. If you house is worth more, you pay more.

They funded the military prior to the 16th with tariffs, duties and contributions from the states.


OMG!  How horrible!  People paying more when they have a higher level of wealth??????

Jesus GOD!!!  Make it stop!!!!

And, here we are like a bunch of saps, owning houses and being mugged of our dollars by the local government to pay for public schools for kids WE DON'T EVEN HAVE (some of us) and for people WHO DO HAVE KIDS BUT DON'T OWN HOUSES!!!!!

OH GODS THE HORROR!!!!

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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #56 on: October 27, 2008, 09:16:50 PM »
They pay at the same flat rate. It is not a progressive tax.

I guess your sarcastic reply means you have nothing serious to add to this discussion.


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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #57 on: October 27, 2008, 09:38:28 PM »
They pay at the same flat rate. It is not a progressive tax.

I guess your sarcastic reply means you have nothing serious to add to this discussion.


I guess your indication of  HOW I say something is your way of saying you have nothing serious with which to rebut.

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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #58 on: October 27, 2008, 09:43:05 PM »
I have been countering your points all along, gently reminding you that the items you bring up are not funded by a progressive income tax, except for the military.

For example, police and fire departments are funded with local tax dollars.




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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #59 on: October 27, 2008, 09:55:21 PM »
I have been countering your points all along, gently reminding you that the items you bring up are not funded by a progressive income tax, except for the military.

For example, police and fire departments are funded with local tax dollars.


You admitted that the more expensive your house, the more property tax you pay.  How is that not your precious talking point "punishing success"?