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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Plane on October 06, 2008, 07:36:14 PM

Title: RNC Complains
Post by: Plane on October 06, 2008, 07:36:14 PM: Quote
The Republican National Committee filed a 49-page complaint against Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s campaign Monday, alleging Obama had knowingly and excessively accepted contributions from foreign nationals.

RNC General Counsel Sean Carincross said, "We see this as a wide-scale problem and it appears the Obama campaign may be in substantial noncompliance with federal campaign finance laws.”

Federal election law expressly prohibits political candidates from accepting any money from foreign sources.

The RNC is specifically questioning Obama’s quality controls for low-dollar contributions made over the internet, the sale of Obama paraphernalia to foreigners over the internet by the Obama campaign and pro-Obama fundraisers held in Nigeria.

http://townhall.com/columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/10/06/details_in_rnc_complaint_on_obamas_foreign_money (http://townhall.com/columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/10/06/details_in_rnc_complaint_on_obamas_foreign_money)

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/national/stories/DN-trailmix_06pol.ART.State.Edition2.26dc97c.html (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/national/stories/DN-trailmix_06pol.ART.State.Edition2.26dc97c.html)

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Hey I recently had several very wealthy relatives die in Nigeria. I am waiting too long for the money to be remitted, I wonder if Obama got in there and intercepted some of that money?
Title: Re: RNC Complains
Post by: Knutey on October 06, 2008, 07:46:18 PM: Mommmeee- Them Dems is raising more money than me for a change.

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Title: Re: RNC Complains
Post by: Amianthus on October 06, 2008, 07:47:29 PM: "For a change"?
Title: Re: RNC Complains
Post by: Knutey on October 06, 2008, 07:50:38 PM: Quote from: Amianthus on October 06, 2008, 07:47:29 PM
"For a change"?

Usually it is the rich & greedy asshole Repugs that raise more money. I will be certain to spell it out better for you next time, Jr..
Title: Re: RNC Complains
Post by: Amianthus on October 06, 2008, 07:51:21 PM: Quote from: Knutey on October 06, 2008, 07:50:38 PM
Usually it is the rich & greedy asshole Repugs that raise more money. I will be certain to spell it out better for you next time, Jr..

That hasn't been true for several election cycles. I've corrected Mikey on it a few times.
Title: Re: RNC Complains
Post by: Knutey on October 06, 2008, 08:00:10 PM: Quote from: Amianthus on October 06, 2008, 07:51:21 PM
Quote from: Knutey on October 06, 2008, 07:50:38 PM
Usually it is the rich & greedy asshole Repugs that raise more money. I will be certain to spell it out better for you next time, Jr..

That hasn't been true for several election cycles. I've corrected Mikey on it a few times.

How many o great ( & I DO mean great) one?
Title: Re: RNC Complains
Post by: Amianthus on October 06, 2008, 08:15:40 PM: Quote from: Knutey on October 06, 2008, 08:00:10 PM
How many o great ( & I DO mean great) one?

At least since 2004. I think 2002 as well (or they were about tied then).
Title: Re: RNC Complains
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 06, 2008, 08:17:04 PM: That hasn't been true for several election cycles. I've corrected Mikey on it a few times.

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There are contributions to the presidential campaigns of each party.
There are also contributions to the National Committee of each party.
And even 527 contributions.

All this money is spent can be spent to support a candidate.
Unless you add all of these together, and compare, you do not have a valid comparison.

And will have failed as Official Hall Monitor
Title: Re: RNC Complains
Post by: Amianthus on October 06, 2008, 08:22:57 PM: Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on October 06, 2008, 08:17:04 PM
All this money is spent can be spent to support a candidate.
Unless you add all of these together, and compare, you do not have a valid comparison.

Exactly. All of those are reported to the FEC. It's just the limits are different depending on the group that receives the contribution.
Title: Re: RNC Complains
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 06, 2008, 10:21:01 PM: If the issue is who receives more, then the limits are unimportant.

I don't think anyone can rule out sacks of cash that go unreported, either.
Title: Re: RNC Complains
Post by: Amianthus on October 06, 2008, 10:28:48 PM: Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on October 06, 2008, 10:21:01 PM
I don't think anyone can rule out sacks of cash that go unreported, either.

Those exist on both sides.
Title: Re: RNC Complains
Post by: Knutey on October 06, 2008, 10:50:55 PM: Quote from: Amianthus on October 06, 2008, 08:15:40 PM
Quote from: Knutey on October 06, 2008, 08:00:10 PM
How many o great ( & I DO mean great) one?

At least since 2004. I think 2002 as well (or they were about tied then).

Hate to be picky like ,some people I could mention , but 2004 till now is only two national elections and even if you add 2002 over which you are not sure , it is only two Presidential. This is hardly several and besides it looks like this one will be even http://www.cfinst.org/pr/prRelease.aspx?ReleaseID=205 (http://www.cfinst.org/pr/prRelease.aspx?ReleaseID=205)
which is why the RNC cheaters want to make a fuss. What wimps you Repuds are.
Title: Re: RNC Complains
Post by: Amianthus on October 06, 2008, 10:56:24 PM: Three is several.
Title: Re: RNC Complains
Post by: Knutey on October 07, 2008, 11:00:51 AM: Quote from: Amianthus on October 06, 2008, 10:56:24 PM
Three is several.

I sometimes think that I must have waaay too much time on my hands to quibble with a garden gnome on the internet. But then I think WAIT English must not be the poor souls first language! Perhaps I can help him communicate during his visit to the US!

One is one , two is a couple, THREE is a few. Read my lips!

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Title: Re: RNC Complains
Post by: Amianthus on October 07, 2008, 12:08:29 PM: Quote from: Knutey on October 07, 2008, 11:00:51 AM
I sometimes think that I must have waaay too much time on my hands to quibble with a garden gnome on the internet. But then I think WAIT English must not be the poor souls first language! Perhaps I can help him communicate during his visit to the US!

No, it's not. English is the third language I learned.

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
adjective
1.   being more than two but fewer than many in number or kind: several ways of doing it.
2.   respective; individual: They went their several ways.
3.   separate; different: several occasions.
4.   single; particular.
5.   Law. binding two or more persons who may be sued separately on a common obligation.
noun
6.   several persons or things; a few; some.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/several (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/several)
Title: Re: RNC Complains
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on October 07, 2008, 12:11:43 PM: Could we compromise, and call three "barely several"?

What are the outer limits of "several"? twenty? a hundred? Certainly not more than a hundred, even of something small, like pins or B-Bs.