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sirs

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Re: One less Freedom
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2016, 04:52:35 PM »
The publicity jerks here are those who went out of their way to find a business that wouldn't cater to their political correctness agends.  Otherwise you wouldn't have heard a peep from the bakery, simply exercising they're 1st Amendment rights
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Re: One less Freedom
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2016, 06:21:56 PM »
It turned out that they had no such rights, didn't it? 
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Re: One less Freedom
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2016, 07:23:33 PM »
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on October 08, 2016, 11:21:15 AM

These homophobic clowns announced in advance what they would not do and brought on their own demise.



No, they were found by searching for a place to make a test case.


If what they wanted really was just  cake they had a lot of places they passed to get to the place where they would get a refusal.

Cake was never the point , making commerce obedient was the point.
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Re: One less Freedom
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2016, 07:26:32 PM »
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on October 08, 2016, 06:21:56 PM
It turned out that they had no such rights, didn't it?

Thus the point of Plane's point of the thread
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Re: One less Freedom
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2016, 07:33:56 PM »
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on October 08, 2016, 06:21:56 PM
It turned out that they had no such rights, didn't it?

So neither do you or I.

We don't miss them yet , but the time will come when someone orders you to do something you don't want to do, then you may feel the lack.
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Re: One less Freedom
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2016, 07:49:39 PM »
I have no public business and have no plans to start one.
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Re: One less Freedom
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2016, 08:55:00 PM »
What makes you think you think you merely have to run a business to have your rights absolved?
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Re: One less Freedom
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2016, 08:58:56 PM »
This case will never, ever affect me in any conceivable way.
If I owned that bakery, I would have doubled the usual price and baked the damn cake.
Then donated the extra money to some anti-gay cause.
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Re: One less Freedom
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2016, 09:59:25 PM »
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on October 08, 2016, 07:49:39 PM
I have no public business and have no plans to start one.
Why is the right to abortion precious to you?
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Re: One less Freedom
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2016, 10:07:26 PM »
It is not precious to me at all. I will never have a need for an abortion.

But the right of a woman to have a child should be up to the woman, not random happenstance and/or to the government.

I should have control over my life and so should everyone else even women.

Fetuses are not mature enough to trump that right. When you have to choose between the woman and the fetus that she does not want, the fetus loses. Tough.
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Re: One less Freedom
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2016, 04:20:56 AM »
Apparently, the Government gets to decide if you have that right, or any other for that matter,...... or not
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Re: One less Freedom
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2016, 09:00:52 AM »
Well, it shouldn't... and wouldn't if not for fanatic enemies of women's rights like you.
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Re: One less Freedom
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2016, 11:05:07 AM »
Of course it shouldn't, but there you are, giddy as a child, that they just did
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Re: One less Freedom
« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2016, 11:50:40 AM »
It is a compromise and neither side is happy about it.
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Re: One less Freedom
« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2016, 12:38:04 PM »
  So even though I have a job in which I never choose between customers, I feel diminished in the loss of freedom for those that do.

    It may be wiser for a baker that object to merely charge more, but wisdom and integrity seem at odds due to the law.
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