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Re: black lives matter dallas
« Reply #46 on: July 10, 2016, 11:11:15 PM »
Thank you President Obama, your "Justice" Dept, and like minded Democrats     >:(

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Just read that the DHS chief, Jeh Johnson, thinks its too early to call the actions of the Dallas assassin, a member of the New Black Panthers party, and yelling his intention kill any white person he sees, in particular, a white cop, a "hate crime"

So, what exactly does it require for an act to be a hate crime??  Simply flip the colors of the races involved??     >:(
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« Reply #47 on: July 10, 2016, 11:36:53 PM »
due to the polices race it`s cannot be a hate crime. it require certain type of social status . basicly attacking whites and asians does not qualify as a hate crime.


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« Reply #48 on: July 10, 2016, 11:43:29 PM »
Apparently not   
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« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2016, 12:02:58 AM »
by this logic we can attack nigerians and it would not be a hate crime. armenians can attack anybody they want

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« Reply #50 on: July 11, 2016, 09:51:50 AM »
It does not matter whether to call it a hate crime or not. He is dead is it is, and equally dead if it is not.
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« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2016, 11:18:18 AM »
Then why do we have crimes?  Dead is dead, right?
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« Reply #52 on: July 11, 2016, 11:45:28 AM »
We could add to the force of hate crimes by saying that if you were killed in the commission of a "hate crime" or sentenced to death for committing one, in addition to the usual execution, you would be buried in a special combination murderers' cemetery/ dog park, where dog walkers would bring dogs to poop and pee on your grave for a time, the duration of which would be determined by a jury.

Idle speculation, and "cruel and unusual punishment" I know, but just a thought.
The sentence would make for an excellent  photo to put on the New York Post, and the dogs humping and peeing would be great for Fox and other News for Morons.
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« Reply #53 on: July 11, 2016, 11:52:21 AM »
So basically you're saying the notion of hate crimes is idiotic.....correct?
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« Reply #54 on: July 11, 2016, 01:56:56 PM »
I support hate crime laws despite I criticised it. Because it does get the crime in questions to actually enforce d. Remember these are crimes that norm get ignored. The very fact people are upset they exist is proof shows these crimes finally gets attention. I don't recall the opposition saying their already enforced

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« Reply #55 on: July 11, 2016, 02:46:05 PM »
So xo thinks hate crimes are idiotic and you belive they have the effect of making prosecution of such a crime....more important?   If someone slaughters a family in a home burglary, you believe wouldn't be prosecuted as vigilantly, unless the intention was race centric?
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« Reply #56 on: July 11, 2016, 05:14:52 PM »
This guy is making a hell of a lot of sense!

It is so nice to hear people with no filter




"We're asking cops to do too much in this country" said Brown.

"Every societal failure, we put it off on the cops to solve" said Brown. He listed mental health, drug addiction, loose dogs, failing schools as problems the public expects "cops to solve."

"Seventy percent of the African American community is being raised by single women, let's give it to the cops to solve that as well" said Brown. "Policing was never meant to solve all those problems."

When asked what advice he would give black men, Chief Brown said, "Become a part of the solution, serve your community. Don't be a part of the problem, we're hiring. Get off that protest line and put an application in. We'll put you in your neighborhood, we will help you resolve some of the problems you are protesting about."


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Re: black lives matter dallas
« Reply #57 on: July 11, 2016, 06:08:59 PM »
Calling a crime a hate crime can have its place, as in swastika scribbling on the synagogue being a hate crime while tagging a boxcar with your logo is not.
But once the perp is DEAD, that is all there is to ti, He cannot be punished unless you want to defile his corpse.

The context was the police chief was asked whether it was going to be called a hate crime or not. Being as the Chief did not know and is not the one who decides, he said that this was undecided. It was the best possible answer to a rather dumb question.

The only reason to label it a hate crime would be that it would be reported as such statistically,
But since it cannot affect the punishment (we do not punish corpses) in  that case it was silly.
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Re: black lives matter dallas
« Reply #58 on: July 11, 2016, 07:13:59 PM »
Ok.....i think i have your version down.  A hate crime is perfectly ok if its some white person acting out on a non-white, based primarily on race or religion.   But if its a non-white acting out on a white person, based primarily on their race or religion, then its idiotic to say its a hate crime.  That about it?
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« Reply #59 on: July 12, 2016, 11:06:33 AM »
Damn, you  are fucking stupid! No one can explain a goddamned thing to you because your stupidity is absolutely monumental.

If Mikah Johnson had been captured alive, then of course he could have been charged with a hate crime, just like Darren Roof who shot all those people in Charleston. I will be very surprised if Roof is not charged with a hate crime. Of course, the most they can do is sentence him to death, and they cannot sentence him to death twice. There is nothing more that they can do than execute him. But they can use him as a sort of example of hate crime for future trials.

No one can try a dead person. It is insane to charge him with a hate crime or murder, anyway, because the maximum penalty would be a  rather peaceful lethal injection, and he was blown to bits with a bomb. If they wanted to write down for posterity that he was blown to smithereens for a hate crime and five murders, that would be fine with me.

Are you in favor of scraping up the bits of Mikah Johnson and putting them on trial for hate crime and murder for  the sake of symmetry, sirs?
Is that what you are saying?

Let us note that apparently Johnson returned rather warped from Juniorbush's falsely mongered war.
When we have shooting wars, we need more soldiers, and therefore lower the standards for recruits. And we end up with messes like this and Abu Graib as unfortunate results.

Sweden and Switzerland mind their own business and never have shit like this go down.
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