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'Tis the season
« on: January 31, 2007, 09:33:12 PM »
................... to self destruct.


Giving Biden the benefit of the doubt?
by kos
Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 10:44:36 AM PST
It's sort of ironic that Biden stepped in it big time the same day he announces his exploratory committee for president. Let's recap:

“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

So some are saying that an editing decision could've made the quote sound worse.

OK, I'm not a big Biden fan, so I wouldn't be disappointed to see him drop out. But I have to say this: what if the Observer punctuated casually? That is, what if there is supposed to be a comma before 'who,' making it a non-restrictive relative clause:

“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American, who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

Thus he would mean Obama is both

a). the first mainstream African-American candidate for president

and

b). articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.

It's within the realm of possibilities. But then is he saying that Carol Moseley Braun wasn't "mainstream" even though she represented the fifth largest state (in population) in the U.S. Senate? Is he saying that Jesse Jackson wasn't "mainstream" even though he won 11 primaries in 1988 and 6.9 million votes? The population of Delaware is 783,600. Heck, he won Michigan with 55% of the vote.

So either 1) he's a patronizing asshole, or 2) he's a historical revisionist asshole. Either way, he's an asshole. And either way, the racial element is inescapable.

Update: I got an email from Biden's director of online communication claiming I'm giving a "one-sided impression" of Biden. Aside from the fact that this poor guy (Eric Carbone) thinks blogs are supposed to be "fair and balanced", it's true, I've completely forgotten to write about the other side of the story -- how Biden is a bought and paid for subsidiary of MBNA. When Bank of America acquired MBNA, Biden was likely part of the package deal.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/1/31/133420/651

Biden shouldn't worry though. Americans have short attention spans.

They'll forget about this Philadelphia (Ms) moment by the 4th quarter of the superbowl.



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Re: 'Tis the season
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2007, 10:58:43 PM »
I'm not sure why he's the first 'mainstream' black candidate. 
Forget all the other words; that's the one that makes me think Biden is saying that Obama has no civil rights roots, no slavery roots, isn't a preacher, isn't a black woman.   
I'm not worrying about the statement because Biden isn't on my short list, so to speak.
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Re: 'Tis the season
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2007, 11:18:28 PM »
Would Obama be a viable candidate if he weren't black?

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Re: 'Tis the season
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2007, 11:37:29 PM »
My gut instinct is to say, No.
Then I remember his speech at the Convention.  Very, very very good. 
And then, I remember that part of the problem of being a senator w/ years of experience is that you have years of votes that some  people  are not going to like.  So what I see as inexperience could well be a plus. 

 I've seen public people who were very charismatic, could talk a door off its hinges and were just gifted with that...and that only.  So we have a long, long way to go. 
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Re: 'Tis the season
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2007, 12:02:56 AM »
On the dem side i would say Richardson and believe it or not Hillary are the best qualified, with Richardson being the more qualified.


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Re: 'Tis the season
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2007, 01:02:34 AM »
On the dem side i would say Richardson and believe it or not Hillary are the best qualified, with Richardson being the more qualified.

I concur with the Richardson assessment
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