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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: kimba1 on November 28, 2014, 06:53:40 PM

Title: Black friday strike
Post by: kimba1 on November 28, 2014, 06:53:40 PM
Am i wrong to think this strike is wrong since it'll likely cause more problems than solutions. Remember this is hardly encouraging business growth in ferguson.

Any bets  any company that gets notable revenue losses will avoid opening in ferguson.
Title: Re: Black friday strike
Post by: Plane on November 28, 2014, 08:38:11 PM
   The shopkeepers of Ferguson aren't much at fault, they are more like easy targets.
Title: Re: Black friday strike
Post by: kimba1 on November 28, 2014, 08:51:04 PM
I don't recall any fault was ever blamed on the businesses of ferguson. But i do know that quite likely people who trashed those store believe that insurance will pay for it and if anything helps that businesses. I say this because i know people who think like this. The rational is quite strong.
Title: Re: Black friday strike
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 29, 2014, 05:08:18 PM
Insurance will certainly pay for the merchandise and property damage. What it will not pay for is the lass of revenue from the store losing customers as a result of this.
Title: Re: Black friday strike
Post by: Plane on November 29, 2014, 07:09:51 PM
   Each of those small businesses that fails to reopen evaporates a dozen or so low level jobs.
   And two or four good paying ones.

     If it happens enough there is a snowballing of bad effect.
Title: Re: Black friday strike
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 29, 2014, 07:12:13 PM
What happens in Ferguson remains to be seen. Burning down stores is not an effective way to change things. But the people who burn stores are basically thieves.
Title: Re: Black friday strike
Post by: Plane on November 29, 2014, 09:48:29 PM
    It isn't even that good.

     What is the harmful stereotype?

       Does reaffirming a harmful stereotype deepen the rut the national mind gets into?
Title: Re: Black friday strike
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 30, 2014, 01:15:19 PM
What are you talking about? Who mentioned stereotypes?
Ferguson will rebuild and continue to exist. The rioting in Watts and DC did not result in the disappearance of  the neighborhoods which were affected by the rioting.
Title: Re: Black friday strike
Post by: kimba1 on November 30, 2014, 01:36:06 PM
sadly a stereotype is made . neighborhood don`t disappear it just gets thinner and thinner. we`ll just wait and see how creative they get on attracting growth, sofar their only demanding it.
Title: Re: Black friday strike
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 30, 2014, 02:08:02 PM
I do not think that the population in Anacostia or Watts has dropped since the riots.
Title: Re: Black friday strike
Post by: Plane on November 30, 2014, 02:14:49 PM
What are you talking about? Who mentioned stereotypes?
Ferguson will rebuild and continue to exist. The rioting in Watts and DC did not result in the disappearance of  the neighborhoods which were affected by the rioting.

     Michael Brown might have had a stereotype of white policemen, that white policemen might not respect his rights.

      That could explain his behavior if you believe the policeman's story.

     Or the police there might have a stereotype understanding of the black community in Ferguson , that there is an unreasoning and violent streak,would explain the police behavior in some respects.

     So if stereotype is part of the problem  , perhaps near the origin of the problem, how bad is it to reinforce the stereotype on the record and on the video screen?
Title: Re: Black friday strike
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 30, 2014, 02:20:28 PM
Well, both the cop and the victim had stereotypes. Neither was all that bright.

Title: Re: Black friday strike
Post by: Plane on November 30, 2014, 02:33:48 PM
I do not think that the population in Anacostia or Watts has dropped since the riots.


http://articles.latimes.com/2005/aug/06/local/me-watts6


No, but did the riot help ?

If the population is still dense , that doesn't seem to prove improvement.
Title: Re: Black friday strike
Post by: kimba1 on November 30, 2014, 02:38:31 PM
this keeps up the more shadier groups of people will takeover ferguson and become the 5th ward in texas. but the most extreme  of situations.
Title: Re: Black friday strike
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 30, 2014, 03:04:23 PM
I think Watts is better off than it was before the riots.
It might have been better still had there been no riots.
Riots do get the attention of people who can and sometimes do help.
When life becomes unbearable, people leave.