If we nominate Newt....

[BT]

The drug peddler was his brother in law, 25 years ago.

[Christians4LessGvt]

You are aware of Rubio's unnatural citizenship

I am aware that Marco Rubio was born in the United States in 1971
to parents that were here in the US legally that became citizens in
1975.

Most scholars think it's a pretty unusual position for anyone to think the
natural born citizen clause would exclude someone born in the U.S. to
parents in the country legally.

Would love to see how that works out for the DNC if they
court challenge a Hispanic born on US soil running as VP.

his drugpeddling brother and his war with Univision, aren't you?

Is that all ya got?
LOL
His brother like 25 years ago & a disgreement with a network he used to work at?
Pathetic....and funny....it's so desperate!

[BT]

Brother in law. Unlike Roger Clinton who was a stepbrother drug peddler.

[sirs]

What exactly is the definition of someone with "unnatural citizenship", and how does Rubio qualify for such a label?  Xo wouldn't be......dare I say.....wrong, on such a claim, would he?

[Christians4LessGvt]

What exactly is the definition of someone with "unnatural citizenship",
and how does Rubio qualify for such a label?

it is up for interpretation
there is no doubt Marco Rubio was born in Florida in 1971 making him a US citizen
there might be some minor debate as to whether he is a "natural born citizen"
which is required by the US Constitution to serve as President.
but it isnt clear what a "natural born citizen" is & it was never clearly defined
Many would say Rubio would be covered under the 14th amendment:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,
are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside"
But ya see it does not specifically say "natural born citizens" it just says "citizens".
On other hand some think there are 2 types of citizens: natural and naturalized
and if you're born in this country, you're natural-born and qualified to be President.
SO XO is correct in claiming there is an issue....it's a fringe issue...but it's out there.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I would not vote against Rubio because of his parents. I would vote against him because he is a typical Cuban rightwing politician, or as those in the know call them, a prick. Anyone who believes that somehow after 50 years the embargo is going to bring Castro down this year when all it did was give him an excuse for repression for the 49 previous years is simply none too bright.

He said he won't be a candidate. So did Christie.  Christie is three or four times smarter than Rubio, but not as pretty.


The Newtster or Romney will have to pick someone else. I hardly think it will make any serious difference.

[BT]

XO

Why is it when you denigrate republicans the most frequent slur you use is that they are stupid. Do you actually believe that?

[BSB]

Newt Gingrich in the White House. Now THAT's a scarey thought.

BSB

[BT]

Dollars to donuts says Newt is the Legacy type. If elected he'll do a good job, for the legacy.

[sirs]

Newt Gingrich in the White House. Now THAT's a scarey thought.

BSB

Scareyier still is the current occupant remaining in power

Sirs

[BSB]

"If elected he'll do a good job, for the legacy."

I have no doubt but what he'd try however the problem is, from what I've heard, Newt has been known to loose it. Just from watching him you can see his grandiosity. That's a form of loosing it right there. I don't think we want this guy in the oval office.

BSB

[BT]

Depends on what the real expectations of a president are.

Primarily they are communicators. Newt can do that, so can Obama when TOTUS is plugged in.

Mitt could do it too.

This whole idea of President as Superman is just spin anyway.

I don't think Newt will win in the long haul. The long knives are being unsheathed. But Mittens won't lock it up for a while and Ricky Santorum might make a comeback. Be interesting if it ends up a brokered convention.

[BSB]

"This whole idea of President as Superman is just spin anyway."

The spin that a President is Superman comes mainly from a need the public has to believe someone can be, and is, in control. That's how dictators gain power. That's what allows for governing formations like Communism.  "The state will take care of me".  It's the fault of the citizenry. The fact that so much is beyond anyone's control scares people. Look at the changes the last 10, 11, years have brought.

To your point that Presidents are basically communicators. That's an important part of the job but we have had some real leaders in the White House who have had an idea of what they wanted to accomplish, and have been able to deliver. FDR being the last great example of that, and Reagan also to a certain extent. Obama has failed in both departments in my opinion but someone seemingly better has to come forward. With the possible exception of Romney, no one has. Romney has yet to convince me though, and it appears that there's a ceiling on how many others he can convince.


BSB

[Xavier_Onassis]

 The thought occurs to me that the Republican Primaries have been a failed attempt for a coalition of fatcats, wheeler-dealers and guys who overdosed on parochial schools and Christian academies to discover or perhaps create their own Putin.

Maybe Mitt & the Newtster, Santorum and Paul should go out in the woods, take off their shirts and shoot bears like Vladimir did.

[BT]

I think the myth of superman is the fault of the citizens and the press and the establishment.

The FDR did this or Reagan did that is shorthand for the executive branch did this or the executive did that and we bought and internalized the shorthand.

Communicating is a big part of the job, so is selling the vision du jour.