DebateGate
General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: BSB on March 05, 2012, 01:20:51 PM
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7th advertiser pulls out of Limbaugh's show
The Associated Press
4:55 PM EST March 4, 2012
A flower company is the seventh advertiser to pull its ads from conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh's radio program in reaction to his derogatory comments about a law student who testified about birth control policy.
ProFlowers said Sunday on its Facebook page that it has suspended advertising on Limbaugh's program because his comments about Georgetown University student Sandra Fluke "went beyond political discourse to a personal attack and do not reflect our values as a company."
The six other advertisers that say they have pulled ads from his show are mortgage lender Quicken Loans, mattress retailers Sleep Train and Sleep Number, software maker Citrix Systems Inc., online data backup service provider Carbonite and online legal document services company LegalZoom.
ProFlowers had said on Twitter that posts it received about Limbaugh's remarks affected its advertising strategy. ProFlowers is an online flower delivery service.
Limbaugh called the 30-year-old Fluke a "slut" and "prostitute".......
http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/articles.aspx?afid=1&aid=46620985
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Yea, let's make this about Limbaugh vs the Goverment's egregious unconstiutitonal overreach. Yea, the MSM would be proud B. Keep up their good work
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Still not seeing it. The 1st amendment is quite clear, with the foundation of that amendment, that of freedom. If one is being MADE to do/provide something, counter to their belief system, that's not going to fly with me, even if its in religion's favor
Birth control issue brilliant politics
By DEBRA J. SAUNDERS / Syndicated columnist
Though the Obama administration's decision to force church-based institutions to provide "access" to contraception as part of their health plans was intolerant and unconstitutional and gratuitously divisive, events have proved the move to be brilliant politics.
The White House later came up with a phony compromise – one that allows church-affiliated employers to opt out of contraception but requires their health care providers to provide birth control to plan members. In the meantime, one act of raw power unleashed a cascade of stupid Republican tricks.
In February, House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa questioned an all-male panel invited to discuss the administration's trampling of religious liberty. "Where are the women?" asked Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y. Democrats unsuccessfully tried to add a woman, Sandra Fluke, a third-year student of the Jesuit Georgetown University's law school. Issa is a very smart man, and a second panel that day included two women, but that first panel was bad optics.
A top supporter of GOP hopeful Rick Santorum lamely recalled the days when birth control involved women putting an aspirin between their knees. The controversy enabled media to unearth old quotes from Santorum, such as his October admonition about "the dangers of contraception in this country." To Republican women who see family planning as a virtue, Santorum's views, though consistent with his religious beliefs, smack of the Dark Ages.
Enter an amendment proposed by Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., which not only promised to restore the conscience clause for church-based institutions but also expanded the exemption for any employer with moral objections – and not just for reproductive issues but possibly even for treatments such as vaccinations. The Senate killed the amendment in a 51-48 vote Thursday.
Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine was the only Republican to vote against the measure. The vote came after Snowe announced she will not run for re-election because she is fed up with Washington's atmosphere of partisanship and polarization. To the casual observer, Snowe's "no" vote could be seen as support for President Barack Obama's move against church groups.
But it wasn't. Snowe told MSNBC that she disagrees with Obama and wants a "valid conscience clause," but she objected to the Blunt amendment because it was "broader" than necessary.
Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., dismissed the measure as "men telling women what their rights should be." The Democratic Party clearly plans to parlay this controversy into a bumper harvest of young female voters.
But for the right, this is an issue of the Obama administration's telling church-based groups that they must act against their deeply held beliefs. As House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy told me, the argument did not start with Congress. It was a response to Obama. "It wasn't about birth control. It's about religious freedom."
The tables have turned. Abortion used to be a matter of choice. Ditto birth control. But now that they have considerable political power, the erstwhile choice advocates want to take away the choice of dissenters to opt out.
Choice is gone. Tolerance is musty memory. "Access" is the new buzzword – and access means free. Under Obamacare, employer-paid health plans can charge women copayments for necessary and vital medical services if they are seriously ill, but birth control is free.
Fluke did address Congress. She observed: "Conservative Catholic organizations have been asking (us) what did we expect when we enrolled at a Catholic school. We can only answer that we expected women to be treated equally, to not have our school create untenable burdens that impede our academic success."
I cannot imagine how a Georgetown law student could expect the Catholic Church to treat women equally. It doesn't let women be priests.
What is more, Fluke asserted that if students have to go out and get their own birth control – because they chose to attend a Catholic institution – that hurts their grades. Therefore, Washington must force religious institutions to go against their deeply held beliefs and hand out birth control, if indirectly.
Washington has accomplished a great leap, from a plea for choice to a roar of entitlement.
No doubt, this approach works well with intolerant liberals who want to impose their views on others. But it is enough to cause some of us social moderates, who worry about the encroachment on religious and personal liberty, to go into the loving arms of social conservatives
It's ok....just more gum flapping (http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/women-342911-birth-control.html)
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SIRS....this is nothing but a sham to divert attention
from sky-rocketing gas prices,
high unemployment,
record home forclosures,
and disaster deficit spending.
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The whole contraceptive debate is a right wing smoke screen to divert attention from the fact that the GOP has NO answers.
The basic beliefs are that (1) the rich are still not rich enough. They must be given huge tax breaks so they can "increase their market share", that is, grab an even larger share of the wealth in this country.
(2) The poor are still not poor enough. They must have their taxes raised so they will have "skin in the game".
(3) American workers should work for Japanese, Korean and German companies, perhaps even Chinese companies, because otherwise they will run the risk of being forced to join a union and overpaid.
(4) It builds character for Americans to have to pay with their own health care. This will cause them to stop smoking, drinking, overeating and shooting one another.
(5) Americans tend to be criminals and violent more than other human beings. That is why we must incarcerate a higher percentage of them than any other nationality of people on this planet. Of course, most of the criminals are Black and American Indians...
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SIRS....this is nothing but a sham to divert attention
from sky-rocketing gas prices,
high unemployment,
record home forclosures,
and disaster deficit spending.
Hit the nail on the head, C, which is why my response to BsB included my cudos to him in trying to perpetuate the diversion. Yea, let's put the spotlight on Rush, and Conservatives supposedlly trying to prevent women from having/using BC. Oh, yea and garbage that the poor are still not poor enough. Yea, that's what this is all about
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(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y273/ItsZep/Politics/5b711b19.jpg)
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It is amusing to watch Rush lose sponsor after sponsor. I hope the old fart loses them all.
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Good luck with that
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Actually rush did a goodthing. It's kind of refreshing to see someone not getvaway with bad behavior.
Rush will recover good enough. This is smply a career bump. I very much doubt people can get much milage out of this. It's not like he got caught taking drugs
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The whole contraceptive debate is a right wing smoke screen to divert attention from ...
Why is President Obama launching right wing smoke screens?
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The President did not start the Catholic Church complaining. he tried to figure out how to avoid forceing them to pal=y by getting the insurance companies to provide contraceptive services for free.
President Obama is reasonable.
The Whore of Babylon is not.
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(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y273/ItsZep/Politics/6ed165d2.jpg)
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Sorry Xo, "reasonable" doesn't even come close to ignoring the clear wording of the Constitution, on trying to mandate that which the 1st amendment says he, nor the Fed can. Far closer to radical than reasonable
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There is clause in the Constitution to allow the stupid Church to discriminate.
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Not a clause. It's called an amendment. And not just an Amendment, it happens to be the First Amendment
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Bullshit! There is NOTHING about the Church's right to discriminate.
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Yet it is EVERYTHING to do about the Government NOT being able mandate any religion to perform ANY function, contrary to its doctrine.
So, until that doctrine actually has the opportunity to physically harm someone else, the Constitution says the Fed and Obama CAN'T
Don't like it?......tough......amend the Constitution. Until then, yours and BsB's hatred of the Catholic church is all you've got to hang your hat on
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if what cu posted gets popular , then she totally can`t accepts rush apology the damage is just getting bigger
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if what cu posted gets popular , then she totally can`t accepts rush apology the damage is just getting bigger
Is that picture and caption based on what Rush said or what she said?