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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #60 on: May 30, 2011, 06:33:54 PM »
Yea, those of us who learned from history, not to allow such an event to ever occur again

What is your role in this?

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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #61 on: May 30, 2011, 06:36:35 PM »
Does the name Paul Revere, ring any bells?     8)
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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #62 on: May 30, 2011, 07:07:53 PM »
Does the name Paul Revere, ring any bells?     8)

Does that mean you think Zionism is an integral part of the US psyche?

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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #63 on: May 30, 2011, 07:21:56 PM »
Revere was a silversmith, but he was of French, not Jewish ancestry.
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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #64 on: May 30, 2011, 08:08:04 PM »
Does the name Paul Revere, ring any bells?     8)

Does that mean you think Zionism is an integral part of the US psyche?

Not at all.  You merely asked what my function was.  I provided you an example, that happens to have a well recognized understanding, based on U.S. history
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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #65 on: May 30, 2011, 08:16:26 PM »
So upon a signal from the North Temple you will be crying the Palestinians are coming?

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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #66 on: May 30, 2011, 11:59:01 PM »
Nope, just going to keep pointing out the truth, no matter how loud others try to shout me down, and try to make this about how evil Israel is supposed to be
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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #67 on: May 31, 2011, 12:47:06 AM »
Hopefully  you will be pointing out the truth that Zionism predated the Holocaust by half a century.

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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #68 on: May 31, 2011, 12:55:53 AM »
Which is largely irrelevant to the truth regarding the current Middle East Standoff, between Israel and Palestinians
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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #69 on: May 31, 2011, 12:58:14 AM »
I still am not getting what Paul Revere has to do with Israel.
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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #70 on: May 31, 2011, 01:29:01 AM »
Why am I not surprised
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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #71 on: May 31, 2011, 06:09:41 AM »
Hopefully  you will be pointing out the truth that Zionism predated the Holocaust by half a century.

Zionism does not predate Progroms and anti semitic riots.

A certain amount of suspicion against the general population and governments of Europe is justified.

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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #72 on: May 31, 2011, 01:09:20 PM »
A certain amount of suspicion against the general population and governments of Europe is justified.
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There have been no pogroms, no persecution, no mistreatment of Jews in Europe in modern times. There is only the occasional incident of some skinhead scribbling a swastika every once in a while. Probably some of the swastikas are the work of drunken punks rather than neonazis.

Antisemitism is NOT the same thing as anti-Zionism. There are many Jews who disagree with the concept of Zionism, and many more who disagree with the particularly nasty slant that Netanyahu has stuck it with. AIPAC wants all Americans to believe that publicly chastising anything Israel does, or opposing anything that Israel wants from the US, usually for free, is also antisemitic.

The vast majority of Europeans have no problems with Jewish neighbors, or Jewish educators or politicians. France is led by a Jew of Hungarian origin. The deposed head of the IMF, Strauss-Kahn, currently under arrest for molesting a Black chambermaid, is Jewish. He seems to be the guy Hitler warned everyone about: a lecherous world banker and currency manipulator, abusing innocent women, and the general reaction to this in France was not to depose this guy, but to accuse the NYPD or someone of a mammoth conspiracy against a respected public figure.

It looks to me like Strauss-Kahn is simply a lech, not a typical evil Jewish banker lech, but the utter lack of antisemitic rhetoric against this guy suggests that anti-Semitism of any dangerous sort is really not a part of the modern European mindset.
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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #73 on: May 31, 2011, 09:45:47 PM »
A certain amount of suspicion against the general population and governments of Europe is justified.
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There have been no pogroms, no persecution, no mistreatment of Jews in Europe in modern times.

  Is it as dead as White supremacy in the southern US?

Or southern Boston Mass for that matter.

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