Would have made a difference?

[BT]

The coverup is not about the death of 4 Americans and the circumstances in which they expired.

The sleight of hand deals with what was going on in the annex, the use of which, if brought to the attention of the American voters, might have significantly affected the results of the election.

[Plane]

The coverup is not about the death of 4 Americans and the circumstances in which they expired.

The sleight of hand deals with what was going on in the annex, the use of which, if brought to the attention of the American voters, might have significantly affected the results of the election.

I don't think so.

If the raiders had found something interesting they would have published.

The Annex strikes me as a prudent measure , a place to retreat to, but , the raiders knew where it was and attacked it with mortars.
There are many indicators in that of carefull preplanning and exploitation of security lapses.

If the raid had released prisoners or found anything elese interesting , why be tardy in exploiting the evidence?

[sirs]

The coverup is not about the death of 4 Americans and the circumstances in which they expired.

The sleight of hand deals with what was going on in the annex, the use of which, if brought to the attention of the American voters, might have significantly affected the results of the election.

While I agree with the latter, its the former that's likely to make Watergate look like child's play, to the populace

[BT]

If the raid had released prisoners or found anything elese interesting , why be tardy in exploiting the evidence?

How do you know they aren't?

[Xavier_Onassis]

There is no way this would have changed the results of the election at all.

It is basically insignificant,and will result in nothing.

[BT]

There is no way this would have changed the results of the election at all.

It is basically insignificant,and will result in nothing.

You are probably correct. I don't think his supporters care if he lies to them or not.

Do you care that Gitmo is still open?

[Plane]

There is no way this would have changed the results of the election at all.

It is basically insignificant,and will result in nothing.

Would you have called the shooting at Kent State insignifigant?

What about Watergate could have influenced the election?

Watergate was tawdry, a game of dirty tricks and money, Bengazi is deadly, a series of false claims , mismanagement of foreign relations and poor understanding of intelligence.
Bengazi is worse.
What they have in common is the timing near election and the failing to temptation to coverup.

How you think Watergate worse? I have only a theroy, you like President Obama as a person, and are eager to excuse his little flaws however evident they may become.

I can understand that , Nixon broke my heart.

[sirs]

There is no way this would have changed the results of the election at all.

It is basically insignificant,and will result in nothing.

You are probably correct. I don't think his supporters care if he lies to them or not.

Do you care that Gitmo is still open?

touche'

[sirs]

There is no way this would have changed the results of the election at all.

It is basically insignificant,and will result in nothing.

Would you have called the shooting at Kent State insignifigant?

What about Watergate could have influenced the election?

Watergate was tawdry, a game of dirty tricks and money, Bengazi is deadly, a series of false claims , mismanagement of foreign relations and poor understanding of intelligence.
Bengazi is worse.
What they have in common is the timing near election and the failing to temptation to coverup.

How you think Watergate worse? I have only a theroy, you like President Obama as a person, and are eager to excuse his little flaws however evident they may become.

BINGO....excellent theory, btw

[hnumpah]

At least, H, as good as he is in defending Obama currently...

Say whut?

...It's all speculation right now, but it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

That was shortly after the Petraeus affair broke, after I reassured you he could still be subpoenaed to testify (he was). I keep trying to point out, I'm not one to rush to judgement, like many in here. I like to have all the facts first, or as much as possible.

[sirs]

As of yet, I haven't seen any retraction of your jump to defend Obama's claim that the terrorist attack in Libya, was indeed a terrorist attack, the very next day.  Sorry H, your defensive fingerprints are all over that one

[hnumpah]

I posted the source for that, if you care to go back and look. If they were wrong in saying Obama at first called it a terrorist act, then backed off that claim, then they were wrong. However, that was the information I had at the time.

[sirs]

No, I recall very succinctly, and AFTER the debates, in which you were still parroting the WH version of events, as it relates to what he called it and when.  The facts demonstrated that he did NOT call the Libya attack a terrorist attack, not 1 day after, not even a week after.  He and his administration pushed Rice and his pundits out there to keep repeating the mantra of a video.....a spontaneous action......we need to investigate more.  If they needed to investigate more, then they sure as hell shouldn't have saddled their talking points upon a video, especially now in light that the CIA KNEW it was a terrorist attack from the get go, yet that's where Rice supposedly got her "talking points" from

[hnumpah]

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for...

From Obama's Rose Garden speech, September 12 http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/12/remarks-president-deaths-us-embassy-staff-libya

Slice it or dice it, parse it however you want, he referred to it as I said, as an act of terror. You and the rest of the rabid Republican right can take it however you want.

[Xavier_Onassis]

President Obama did refer to it as a terrorist act. I see no evidence of any cover-up, and even if there was one, so what? OIt will not change the results. The deaths were caused by Libyans, and allowed because intel was absent. No cause for any major scandal. This like the secession petitions, and just as silly.