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[Xavier_Onassis]

This is actually what this article says:

Election officials found 35,570 North Carolina voters had first and last names, and dates of birth, matching voters who voted in other states, which did not list the last four numbers of the Social Security numbers.

"A lot of states don't provide last four SSN, or they don't have that information," Strach said.


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This does not indicate 36,000 cases of voter fraud in any way.

The allegation is that there are a lot people who vote in more than one state.
Of course, there are a LOT of people that have the same name.
In my career, I have had five students named Sharon Smith.

[Plane]

  Matching first, last names and date of birth?

   Is this especially common in NC?

[Xavier_Onassis]

Being as more North Carolinians have British, Scottish and Irish names and fewer names of other sorts, it is likely that there ate more people with duplicate names there than in other places, like New York or California, where last names are more diverse. If you look through small town phone books, this is easy to see.  West Virginia has several pages of names like Campbell, McDonald, Johnson and such.

[Plane]

  But having the same birthday ?

   The likelyhood of such a doppelganger is too small to explain more than a very small number.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The more Bob Joneses, Sharon Smiths, and John Johnsons there are, the more likely they will have the same birthday, and even birth date.

It is conceivable that a Bob Jones might erroneously be using the SSN of another Bob Jones. It both voted in different states, that would not be a case of voter fraud.

There is only one national ticket that people from different states could vote for anyway, President/VP.

[Plane]

  One way that there is so little evidence of vote fraud is just not accepting any of the evidence.

[Xavier_Onassis]

What voter fraud exists generally involves mail in ballots, and a photo ID will not prevent that.

Of course, more Republicans vote by mail than Democrats, so the right wing 'bagger legislatures do not address this problem.

The purpose of these laws is, again, to prevent Democrats from voting. They did not try to deal with this until they had statistics on which voters were most likely to lack drivers licenses. We must show a photo ID in FL now, and when my name is entered, all the data pops up: my address, my precinct, my driver's license number. Prior to the state having a database, it was not possible to know my race or even the sex of some people who had names that could be either M or F.

[Plane]

  No.

  Most of the votes that are disqualified are mail in ballots, this is not the same thing.

   Mail in ballots get disqualified for being unsigned ,incomplete or not matching a known address.

     This is why many military votes are not counted .
     
       I note that there is no Democratic push to defend these votes from not being counted , this is understandable , but makes it laughable for a Democrat to claim that all of the votes are valuable .

     Democrats are fine with rules that make examination of mail in ballots very picky , they are even fine with rules that make it impossible for military votes to arrive in time to qualify.

    This is the reason that Republicans find it merely amusing to hear Democrats fight for the worth of every last vote, we know we quit early on that effort where the armed forces are concerned.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Mail in voter fraud consists mostly of people getting the absentee ballots of people in institutions, like retirement homes and filling them out to favor a particular candidate.
If the Republicans were to benefit from preventing military ballots from being rejected, they would be passing laws to prevent this.

[Plane]

Mail in voter fraud consists mostly of people getting the absentee ballots of people in institutions, like retirement homes and filling them out to favor a particular candidate.
If the Republicans were to benefit from preventing military ballots from being rejected, they would be passing laws to prevent this.

That isn't provable because there are so seldom Democrats that the military can like.

The real point is that there is real effort to repress mail in votes , which must be perfect and on time to be counted.

Even to the point that the ballot blanks are delivered too late for the return to be on time.

The equivalent would be goons blocking the entrance of a polling place , but no sticks needed.

http://debategate.com/new3dhs/index.php?action=post;quote=161232;topic=18406.45;last_msg=161232

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2012/11/naacp-goons-take-over-early-polling-place-2519390.html


Older incident>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/04/fox-black-panther-poll-intimidation-in-pennsylvania/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=neGbKHyGuHU

[Xavier_Onassis]

Republicans tend to get involved in wars in which military people get killed. Democrats tend to be far more respectful of the militaryand do not get so many of them killed.
I suppose that people join the military because they like to fight. At least the officers.
A lot of the enlisted people join the military because they cannot find decent jobs elsewhere and they like the benefits.

[Plane]

Republicans tend to get involved in wars in which military people get killed. Democrats tend to be far more respectful of the militaryand do not get so many of them killed.

You don't have this backwards?

Woodrow Wilson
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
John Kennedy
Bill Clinton

Think about it, you have it exactly backwards.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Hardly anyone died in Clinton's term.
Reagan sent the marines to Lebanon and several hundred died.
Then he mongered a war with Granada.
Ole Bush had wars in Panama and Iraq.
Juniorbush sent troops to Afghanistan and Iraq.

So, no, you are wrong abuot recent times. which are the ones I live in.

[Plane]

  I forgot that you don't count them furren types.

[Xavier_Onassis]

This was a discussion about  the military favoring Republicans over Democrats or vice versa. The people our military slays are not voters and not part of the discussion at hand.