Author Topic: So....what's the difference between National Fascism & Democratic Socialism?  (Read 1822 times)

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sirs

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With all this Sanders rehtoric that Clinton is trying to co-opt some, what exactly is the dfference than what Hitler pushed vs what Bernie supports?
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Nazi Fascism was the opposite of what Bernie Sanders stands for.
It was a totalitarian state that was supported by the huge industrial companies. Krupp, Siemens, Daimler and many others.
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Nazi Fascism was the opposite of what Bernie Sanders stands for.

Well....I guess its debatable about how its the opposite of what Bernie "stands for", but as far as what Bernie, Clinton, and many other Democrats who push the notion of Democratic Socialism, actually say, is pretty darn similar.  That being....."society's needs come before the individual's needs".  Now, if Bernie & company don't really mean what they say, then.....
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It is the direct opposite of Naziism.
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sirs

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No, it's not.....they're siblings of each other
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...as in the difference is simply who owns/runs the businesses.  National Fascism is a Totalitarian state, that dictates what the "huge industrial companies" are to do, while in Democratic Socialism, the Totalitarian state simply dispenses with the middle man, and owns those compaines outright

And again, at their core, is the mantra; society's needs come before the individual's needs
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Democratic Socialism has as its motto, the greatest good for the greatest number.
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And I posted one of its other mottos above
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You are as dim about political ideology as you are about religion.

You just BELIEVE. Logic is unnecessary. At most you quote some dumb shit posted on Fox.

You impress no one.
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Way to dodge.  News Flash....this isn't about religion.  It's about control.  Both sets of governing in the title, are all about control.  Try refuting that vs the knee jerk insults, when apparently you're unable
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If you really want a definition of what Bernie Sanders wants, it is easy to find in wikipedia. It is absurd to associate him with Nazis.
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Oh I know what he wants.....he's pushing it every chance he gets.  It's what prompted the title of this thread.  Nor am I associating him with Nazis.  I'm associating him with a political ideology that preaches & mandates control, with the rhetorical justification that society's needs come before the individual's needs
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Then don't ask me.
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This is a debate forum.  We can ask anyone, anything.  Specifically asking what the difference is between what Sanders & Clinton are pushing, compared to what was pushed in the mid/late 1930's, in Germany. 

The answer being, which you haven't been able to refute is.....not much difference.  Both push for centrally located control of society.  One form mandates control of Corporations, the other simply owns said Corporations, outright.  Both however are all about control at the expense of freedom
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Refute what?

Figure it all out for yourself.

You are already controlled by corporations
Every time you make some monthly payment, you show your allegiance.
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