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Coons Starting to Avoid Obama
« on: October 05, 2010, 12:07:17 PM »
http://www.delmarvanow.com/article/20101005/NEWS01/101005005/1002/DELAWARE-POLITICS--Coons-distances-self-from-Obama

Coons distances self from Obama

Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Chris Coons
outlined his disagreements with the Obama
administration's handling of the bank bailout and
support for offshore oil exploration in an online
chat Monday on The News Journal's website.

At times during the campaign, Coons has sought to
distance himself from Washington Democrats and
President Barack Obama.

In the first question, Coons noted he opposed
Obama's plan to end a long-standing moratorium
on oil exploration along the East Coast from the
northern tip of Delaware to the central coast of
Florida.

"I think drilling off the coast is bad for our state and
our country," Coons wrote.

He also took issue with how the federal government
has handled the bailout of Wall Street banks, which
was initiated under the Bush administration and a
Democratic-controlled Congress.

"The Obama administration could have done a better
job when they came in of making it more
accountable and transparent," Coons wrote.

Two readers asked Coons whether he would "be
willing to hold your head up high, and say, 'I'm a
liberal and proud of it.' "

"There are areas where I'm solidly progressive, but I
am also a fiscal conservative and don't think you
can consistently label my positions with either
liberal or conservative," Coons responded.

Coons was the first candidate in the Nov. 2 general
election to answer questions submitted by readers
on delawareonline.com. Several hundred questions
were submitted in a live, town-hall-style chat.

During the forum, Coons repeated several policy
statements he has made on the campaign trail since
getting into the race to fill Vice President Joe Biden's
old seat. He addressed reader questions about
taxes, gun control, his political ideology and his
record as New Castle County executive.

One reader asked Coons about the "F" grade the
National Rifle Association Political Victory Fund
recently gave him for his positions on gun rights
and the Second Amendment. The NRA has endorsed
Republican Christine O'Donnell in the race.

"We need to work harder to keep guns out of the
hands of felons and those with demonstrated mental
problems and to promote gun safety, but I strongly
believe in the right of Americans to own and use
firearms for self-defense and sport," Coons wrote.


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Re: Coons Starting to Avoid Obama
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2010, 12:42:05 PM »
it's soon gonna be more than coons avoiding nobama
hillary is going to be our next president...
unless the republicans are savy enough to nominate chris christie


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Re: Coons Starting to Avoid Obama
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2010, 12:50:48 PM »
it's soon gonna be more than coons avoiding nobama
hillary is going to be our next president...
unless the republicans are savy enough to nominate chris christie




According to a poll yesterday the only people that are embracing Obama are BLACK FOLK & LIBERALS, everyone else is leaving Obama in droves. CU4, you are hot on this Hillary 2012 thing but the lady is washed up. Look at Bill, he's looking very unhealthy and won't be of much help if she runs in 2012. Democrats are radioactive.

Clearly blacks still standing by Obama at 91% proves race is the main reason.

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Re: Coons Starting to Avoid Obama
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2010, 01:12:17 PM »
CU4, you are hot on this Hillary 2012 thing but the lady is washed up. Look at Bill, he's looking very unhealthy and won't be of much help if she runs in 2012.

I don't think she is washed up.
Very smartly she has kept her distance from OilBama.
Hillary isn't really tied to Obama in the voters minds.
Obama didn't make Hillary popular...she was already very well known.
Sure Bill is older, but a lot of "middle of the roaders" still think highly of his job performance.
You'd be surprised how many people I talk to that say
"yeah i wasn't crazy about him personally, but times were sure were good compared to now"
And besides....Bill isn't running.
and the problem we have.....is who could beat her?
she could raise lots and lots and lots of money
Hillary already has great name recognition...she's tied in to all the power players....the media
She now has been a US Senator and Secretary of State....
Hillary would beat Palin or Gingrich soundly
Hillary would beat any boring McCain/Dole/Fred Thompson type....a.k.a. Pawlenty
John Boehner...lol....yeah sure!
I have my doubts Romney could beat her....
So it comes down to....when you add up the math....whose gonna beat her Kramer?
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Re: Coons Starting to Avoid Obama
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2010, 01:16:46 PM »
CU4, you are hot on this Hillary 2012 thing but the lady is washed up. Look at Bill, he's looking very unhealthy and won't be of much help if she runs in 2012.

I don't think she is washed up.
Very smartly she has kept her distance from OilBama.
Hillary isn't really tied to Obama in the voters minds.
Obama didn't make Hillary popular...she was already very well known.
Sure Bill is older, but a lot of "middle of the roaders" still think highly of his job performance.
You'd be surprised how many people I talk to that say
"yeah i wasn't crazy about him personally, but times were sure were good compared to now"
And besides....Bill isn't running.
and the problem we have.....is who could beat her?
she could raise lots and lots and lots of money
Hillary already has great name recognition...she's tied in to all the power players....the media
She now has been a US Senator and Secretary of State....
Hillary would beat Palin or Gingrich soundly
Hillary would beat any boring McCain/Dole/Fred Thompson type....a.k.a. Pawlenty
I have my doubts Romney could beat her....
So it comes down to....when you add up the math....whose gonna beat her Kramer?


Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. We already elected an inexperienced person for POTUS in Obama, we don't need another one in Hillary.

We need a Ronald Reagan type next go around.

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Re: Coons Starting to Avoid Obama
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2010, 01:22:06 PM »
we don't need another one in Hillary. We need a Ronald Reagan type next go around.

Kramer...dont get me wrong...I would hate to see Hillary elected,
but your point about experience will certianly not fly
Hillary will have been a US Senator and US Secretary of State.
Plus everyone knows she was very involved during Bill's two terms.
Lots of shit would be thrown at Hillary, but "inexperienced" is one that would not stick with the voters.
Again Kramer....besides Chris Christie....whose gonna beat her?
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Re: Coons Starting to Avoid Obama
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2010, 01:31:39 PM »
besides Chris Christie....whose gonna beat her?

Her Dem Party has done her in, and just about any other candiate, including Obama. Who will vote Democrat now? The party has lost Independents, conservative Dems, and middle of the road Dems.

Are black people going to support her at 98% in 2012? The blacks won't even go out and vote in 2012 if she upstages Obama. Did you ever think about that?

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Re: Coons Starting to Avoid Obama
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2010, 01:51:51 PM »
Her Dem Party has done her in, and just about any other candiate, including Obama.
Who will vote Democrat now?
The party has lost Independents, conservative Dems, and middle of the road Dems.


Kramer 2012 is a very, very long way off.
If the Republicans take back the House or the Senate this year.
Of course Republicans will start taking a larger share of the blame than they are now.
Democrats get almost all the blame because they own all the power...that will soon change.
2012 is not going to be any "gimme"....the sides know too much is at stake.
You could also see a Tea Party candidate split the Republican vote
which the Democrats would love and the Democrats would coast to an easy victory.

Are black people going to support her at 98% in 2012?
The blacks won't even go out and vote in 2012 if she upstages Obama.


Hillary will get most of the black vote...who they gonna vote for Romney?
Hillary came within a hair of beating Obama in the primaries.
Of course Blacks will never turn out for anyone as much as they did Obama.
But they will rally around whoever is gonna be Santa Claus
Black leaders would urge them to stop anybody that would slow the "free" goodies.
There are several scenarios...but I think Obama "decides" he wont run again.
I honestly dont think Obama likes it.. Obama would enjoy retirement and his stardom.
I hear Michelle hates their life.....
And that would swing the door wide open for Hillary.
I doubt there will be some big huge fight during the primaries.
I am telling you....at this point in time...my money is on Hillary.
But Chris Christie could beat either of them.
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Re: Coons Starting to Avoid Obama
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2010, 02:00:06 PM »
I really believe id Hillary takes Obama out then blacks won't show up to vote.

Chris Christi needs another year of impressive progress under his belt. Then he just might be the guy to take it all in 2012.

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Re: Coons Starting to Avoid Obama
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2010, 02:58:31 PM »
Who the frick is Chris Christie?

Why not Jesus Christie? That would attract the Latino vote as well.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: Coons Starting to Avoid Obama
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2010, 03:18:56 PM »
Who the frick is Chris Christie?
Oh just a guy hanging out in Iowa this week!



NJ governor rallies fellow Republicans in Iowa

By MIKE GLOVER, AP Political Writer Mike Glover, Ap Political Writer

Tue Oct 5, 1:24 am ET



WEST DES MOINES, Iowa: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie rallied conservative activists in Iowa
late Monday, saying his success in a Democratic state shows his tough-talking, smaller government
message resonates with all voters.

Fanning speculation that he's considering a 2012 presidential bid, the Republican spoke to about
700 people at a fundraiser for former Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad, who is challenging the Democratic
incumbent for his old job back.

Christie said Republicans must deliver on their conservative promises if they gain power during
the November elections. If they don't follow through, he said voters will send the GOP "to the
wilderness, and they are going to send us there for a long, long time."

"As a party, it is put up or shut up time," he said.

Voters are willing to accept the political pain of deep cuts in government spending as long as
they know the pain is being spread equally, Christie argued. It makes sense to shrink government
in tough economic times, and politicians seem to be the last to get that message, he said.

"We lost our way a number of years ago, and we became tax and spend light," he said.
"Less spending, smaller government, less regulation, smaller government ? we're going
to be all about that again. We have to step up and stand for those principles again."

He described former President Ronald Reagan as the last truly successful Republican
political leader, because he stuck to those basic core principles "and that's what we
need to be about today."

After his speech, Christie insisted he wasn't planning to run for president in 2012 ?
even though Iowa, home to the nation's first presidential caucus, is a key destination
for those with big political aspirations.

"I'm governor of New Jersey, I'm not going to run for national office," Christie told reporters.
"You have to want it more than anything else in the world, and I don't. ... You have to be
ready for it, and I'm not."

Still, his appearance in Iowa didn't dampen speculation.

Since he defeated former New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine, Christie has been traveling across the U.S.
with a single message: If he can sell his anti-tax, anti-government message in New Jersey, it can
resonate everywhere.


On Monday, Christie argued that there's political success in carrying out conservative principles.
Elected with less than 50 percent of the vote, he said his approval rating is nearing 60 percent.

"Something different is happening in New Jersey, something different is happening in America," he said.
"They know we are in tough times and they're willing to sacrifice."

His stance underscores a divide in the Republican Party that could play out in the next presidential
election, whether he's a contender or not.

Christie is among those who argue that Republicans can succeed when they focus on fiscal
conservatism, often at the expense of focusing on key social issues, whereas former Alaska
Gov. Sarah Palin and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee energize the party's religious and
socially conservative base. Palin and Huckabee have been in Iowa recently, as has Minnesota
Gov. Tim Pawlenti, who courts that same base.

Branstad, who was Iowa's governor from 1983 to 1999, defeated a more conservative rival in
this year's GOP gubernatorial primary to take on Democratic Gov. Chet Culver. A poll taken late
last month showed Culver trailing Branstad by 19 percentage points.

Branstad praised Christie, saying he was "a model for what a Republican leader and a Republican
governor can do."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101005/ap_on_el_gu/us_christie_iowa
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Re: Coons Starting to Avoid Obama
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2010, 03:22:57 PM »
Yeah!
Dat's what we need!
A fat guy from Joisey who like to put his feet in his mouth!

Most Americans are entirely unaware of whether "Chris Christie" is a guy or a babe.

This is right up there with that Condi Rice for Pres. obsession.


Kramer sure seems delighted about the fact that a guy named "Coons" disagrees with the President.

immature racist assh*le!
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Re: Coons Starting to Avoid Obama
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2010, 04:10:38 PM »
Yeah!Dat's what we need! A fat guy from Joisey....


So XO...let me get this straight.
Kramer is "immature"
But then you call Kramer an "asshole" and then you bring up
Governor Christie's weight as if that should be a part of the debate?
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Re: Coons Starting to Avoid Obama
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2010, 04:40:24 PM »
Kramer is clearly an asshole. All you have to do is read his annoying spiels.

I did not say I would not vote for a candidate if he were fat or bald or spoke his mind, but I am not a typical voter, and Americans do not like fat people, bald people or people who annoy them. It's just a fact.

Observe how Fred Thompson and Rudy Giulani crashed and burned in their bids for the nomination. Both of them follicly impaired.

Observe that the only bald president since McKinley (who was only sort of bald) was Eisenhower, who ran against Stevenson, who was also bald.

There has not been a fat president since Taft. Cleveland was rather portly, and John Adams was plump, but appearance counts for more these days.

At the moment, Christie is unknown, and cutting budgets is not going to make him a national hero. You have to have a noted corrupt official deposed and jailed to become a hero that way. Even Haley Barbour has a far better chance than Christie.

And New Jersey gets no respect as a state. Even the people who live there would prefer to live in New York. And I have visited New Jersey and find at least the central and southern parts rather nice, with lots of friendly people, too. But no, NJ gets no respect. Neither does Mississippi or probably SC or AL either.
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Re: Coons Starting to Avoid Obama
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2010, 05:05:48 PM »
XO do you realize how ridiculous it is for you to imply
Fred Thompson and/or Rudy were not elected because of their hair?
This is just another example of you being unable to defend the
issues and attack people personally. You say "well this
has never happened since blah blah". Well the same exact thing
could have been said about JFK..."well Americans will never
elect a Catholic".....or the exact same thing about Obama
"well Americans will never elect a black man".
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