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Xavier_Onassis

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Re: Resolved there is no good reason to vote for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2016, 04:47:24 PM »
That is hard to argue with.

A parliamentary government would be soooo much better. We would not be limited to two parties, and  since the government would always be a coalition, we would not have the current mess in which neither party will allow the other to even act in the best interests of the nation. Like the Supreme Court nomination at present.
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Re: Resolved there is no good reason to vote for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2016, 05:26:04 PM »
  Have we somehow nominated the two worst persons to be President?

    Who is that poor Libertarian candidate?


The people deserve the choices they nomineted.

Yep, sadly, that is true.  And what's even sadder, is with all this mantra about the GOP, a contested convention, etc, Trump will have won the delegates needed to confrim the nomination.  While on the Democrat side, the people are overwhelmingly supporting Sanders, but because of all the shady grabbing up of superdelegates by Clinton, prior to this election cycle, she could win the nomination with less actual delegates....screwing the Democratic base in the process.  Of course, we'll have to wait and see what all the final numbers are, but he's definately catching up.  Indiana was a disaster for Clinton
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Re: Resolved there is no good reason to vote for Hillary Clinton
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2016, 10:48:14 PM »
  Have we somehow nominated the two worst persons to be President?

    Who is that poor Libertarian candidate?


The people deserve the choices they nomineted.

Yep, sadly, that is true.  And what's even sadder, is with all this mantra about the GOP, a contested convention, etc, Trump will have won the delegates needed to confrim the nomination.  While on the Democrat side, the people are overwhelmingly supporting Sanders, but because of all the shady grabbing up of superdelegates by Clinton, prior to this election cycle, she could win the nomination with less actual delegates....screwing the Democratic base in the process.  Of course, we'll have to wait and see what all the final numbers are, but he's definately catching up.  Indiana was a disaster for Clinton


I think it very likely that both parties will learn exactly the wrong lesson from these circumstances.

The party organization is liable to try to prevent disorder by having much less openness and access, perhaps a lot more "superdeligates" so that there will be less democracy for the Democrats , perhaps more up front money for Republican favorites to even more handicap dark horses.

If the Parties learn the opposite lesson than they should , they may double down on their real problems and become even less responsive to the people.

    The right lesson is that the problem is hierarchy becoming more important than responsiveness to the people. Leading many of the people to grow a reasonable desire to spank that hierarchy.