Obama throws Israel under the Bus

[sirs]

And your proclamation that Israel go back to its 67borders

That was not my proposal, nor my prediction. Perhaps you can show the class where i said that.

It was your concurring, in this thread alone, with BsB, here, here, and your "historical map" here

You were very clear in your agreement with BsB, in the requirement that Israel must return to its 67borders, not to mention that I never claimed it was your prediction

[BT]

And your proclamation that Israel go back to its 67borders

That was not my proposal, nor my prediction. Perhaps you can show the class where i said that.

It was your concurring, in this thread alone, with BsB, here, here, and your "historical map" here

You were very clear in your agreement with BsB, in the requirement that Israel must return to its 67borders, not to mention that I never claimed it was your prediction

This was what i had to say about the matter.

I think the final deal is already set. Be interesting to see what Hollywood has to say. If they don't go ballistic, my guess is that Israel will keep the most important land gains from 67 and in the spirit of peace give back the rest.

Bsb said     

The '67 boarders plus land swaps is where everyone knows it has to end up.

Please note the bolded part.


I said I agree as far as the Palestinians go. I doubt the Golan Heights will be part of the discussion as that deals with Syria.
Wouldn't it be ironic to see Palestinian bulldozers knocking down some Israeli settlement houses in the disputed territories.


Don't see that as saying the borders had to go back to pre-67. In fact you might recall in the thread with Henny about the GCC i questioned why that was so important to the Arabs.

I have no idea why you would think your second two links would bolster your case.

[sirs]

And your proclamation that Israel go back to its 67borders

That was not my proposal, nor my prediction. Perhaps you can show the class where i said that.

It was your concurring, in this thread alone, with BsB, here, here, and your "historical map" here

You were very clear in your agreement with BsB, in the requirement that Israel must return to its 67borders, not to mention that I never claimed it was your prediction

This was what i had to say about the matter.

And that's the reference to your support/proclamation of Israel going back to the 67 borders     

[BT]

Can you read?

[Plane]

There is that whirlpool again.

[BT]

There is that whirlpool again.

I don't know about you, but i just don't see where Sirs has proven his misrepresentation of my position.

[sirs]

lol....oh the irony

[Christians4LessGvt]

BSB "The '67 borders plus land swaps is where everyone knows it has to end up"

BT "I agree as far as the Palestinians go"

It appeared to me you were at least somewhat favoring a return to the '67 borders.
But here we are again.......what is BT's specific position on the question?
From BT's postings......does he? or doesn't he?

So gosh...lets just ask the simple question....

Do you BT support or not support returning to the '67 borders?

[Plane]

There is that whirlpool again.

I don't know about you, but i just don't see where Sirs has proven his misrepresentation of my position.

  To prove a misrep....


   Now don't invite me in!

[sirs]

Besides the clarity on the 67borders, I'd sure like to see his, and others addressing of my starters vs their nuclear non-starters, that I referenced here

[Plane]

The 67 borders aren't great, I daresay that hardly anyone involved would feel complete satisfaction with the 67 border.

As a starting point from which a process of auction would  move the line twards a better shape is what President Obama is really talking about.

I don't agree with any form of the two state solution , it bears no advantage on the present aparthied , why make a painfull change that makes no real diffrence?

[BT]

There is that whirlpool again.

I don't know about you, but i just don't see where Sirs has proven his misrepresentation of my position.

  To prove a misrep....


   Now don't invite me in!

I just did.

[BT]

BSB "The '67 borders plus land swaps is where everyone knows it has to end up"

BT "I agree as far as the Palestinians go"

It appeared to me you were at least somewhat favoring a return to the '67 borders.
But here we are again.......what is BT's specific position on the question?
From BT's postings......does he? or doesn't he?

So gosh...lets just ask the simple question....

Do you BT support or not support returning to the '67 borders?

Welll gosh Mark. What part of this is ambiguous?

I think the final deal is already set. Be interesting to see what Hollywood has to say. If they don't go ballistic, my guess is that Israel will keep the most important land gains from 67 and in the spirit of peace give back the rest.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Welll gosh Mark. What part of this is ambiguous?

mark?
anyway....
i see you talking about Hollywood and what your guess is as to what Israel might do...
But what does BT think should be done?
Enough of what you think others may or may not do...
Does BT support or not support returning to the '67 Borders?

[BT]

BT thinks that Israel will keep the most important land gains from 67 and in the spirit of peace give back the rest.

Now if BT thinks that Israel will keep the most important lands gains from 1967 that kinda indicates that he doesn't think that Israel will roll back to pre-67.

Other than that he really doesn't give a damn other than once they do agree to peace it should be enforced by the nose of a nuke.

But it is interesting that you don't know my position, yet sirs is dead certain i'm all for a roll back.

How can two different people who both have read this thread come to such different conclusions.

And the Mark thing. .....Sooner or later we will open the new site, my guess is if you invite Facebook friends they know who you are anyway. And wasn't that your idea to begin with?