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Title: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on August 29, 2007, 11:44:06 PM
resign now trash and go get help for your sickness
(wonder when the Dems will demand the same of their guy with the cash in the freezer?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RntWGPEjoo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RntWGPEjoo)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZXaaFbo6Oo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZXaaFbo6Oo)
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Michael Tee on August 30, 2007, 09:38:29 AM
Methinks the Republicans do protest too much.

Why the sudden rush to throw this guy under the bus?  What is he, the 10th or 12th or 20th or 50th "family values" Republican to be outted for his sexual adventurism?  Why this sudden panic?  What happened to live and let live?

What exactly are Republicans so anxious to distance themselves from and why do they see it as such a threat?

CNN showed a tape of Bush's electoral victory speech in 2000, crowing about the new age of public morality they were going to bring in after Bill Clinton's disgusting Oval Office BJ.   Well, it was DIFFERENT, alright, but it wasn't exactly NEW.  Bill, I'm on YOUR side of the fence, not the Republicans'.  (just in case anyone was wondering.  Not that there's anything wrong with it.)
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Knutey on August 30, 2007, 11:22:50 AM
resign now trash and go get help for your sickness
(wonder when the Dems will demand the same of their guy with the cash in the freezer?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RntWGPEjoo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RntWGPEjoo)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZXaaFbo6Oo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZXaaFbo6Oo)


All you RW fruitcakes are as quilty as hell. If you werent fags yourselfs, you wouldnt hate them so. Self loathing is exactly what you hatefilled freaks deserve.
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Michael Tee on August 30, 2007, 12:28:45 PM
I wouldn't say that ALL Republican gay-bashers are closet gays, but there's a lot of truth in that statement.  An awful lot of the "family values" Republicans have skeletons in their closets, the gay-bashers probably more than most.  I never trust any of them and their so-called "family values."  They're all full of shit as far as I'm concerned, first of all because nobody should be voting for them to be moral standard-setters, they're supposed to run on the issues of the day that relate to government of the state or nation, not how people should live their lives morally.

Anyone running on a "family values" platform is essentially running a smear campaign, "I'm pure and he's not so pure" or words to like effect.  They are running AGAINST gays, promiscuous women and similar targets which they presume the mainstream hates, and so by painting themselves as the anti-gay, the anti-loose-women candidates they hope to lock in the votes of those who vote purely on personal hatred of their fellow citizens.  It's not much different than running on an anti-black or anti-Semitic platform.  It's one of the reasons America's so fucked up.  It's run by haters and people elected by haters.  People who hate gays, feminists and Arabs.  People who don't give a shit about blacks.  The worst elements in the country.
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Amianthus on August 30, 2007, 12:40:34 PM
I wouldn't say that ALL Republican gay-bashers are closet gays, but there's a lot of truth in that statement.  An awful lot of the "family values" Republicans have skeletons in their closets, the gay-bashers probably more than most.

According to a post you wrote yesterday, every Republican is, by definition, a gay-basher.
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: _JS on August 30, 2007, 12:50:34 PM
It is interesting that it tends to be Republicans in the United States and Liberal Democrats in Britain (or at least in recent history) who find themselves in these situations.

I wonder why that is?
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Michael Tee on August 30, 2007, 01:56:09 PM
<<According to a post you wrote yesterday, every Republican is, by definition, a gay-basher.>>

In the sense that they're all members of a party with an anti-gay agenda.

A lot of them go further than merely being members of the party, though.  They're OVERT or explicit gay-bashers, making a point of stating their anti-gay, "family values" position as if merely being a member of an anti-gay party weren't a strong enough anti-gay statement. 
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: kimba1 on August 30, 2007, 02:17:31 PM
actually this could a good character test for the party
alot of his supposed friends abandoned him
but some simply state they don`t agree or support the lifestyle but are still his friend.
who would you trust loyalty or suppsed ethics?
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Richpo64 on August 30, 2007, 02:24:20 PM
There's no better proof how the stinking hypocrisy of the left than the respones to this post.

Thank you all very much.

lmao!
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: kimba1 on August 30, 2007, 02:36:25 PM
are you talking about me?
I`m talking about loyalty to friends
is this enough to cut loose.
whats funny about that?
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: BT on August 30, 2007, 06:41:55 PM
Something isn't adding up here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20467347/

Especially the part about the ring hand.

Cop seems to have an attitude too.

Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Knutey on August 30, 2007, 07:13:11 PM
are you talking about me?
I`m talking about loyalty to friends
is this enough to cut loose.
whats funny about that?


He doesnt know what the fuck he is talking about. He just makes this shit up as he goes along like his butt buddy, the Bushidiot.
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Knutey on August 30, 2007, 07:20:23 PM
Something isn't adding up here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20467347/

Especially the part about the ring hand.

Cop seems to have an attitude too.



It adds up perfectly. Craig is lying like a rug and making up phony excuses for his failures just like your Bushidiot Hero.
Cops are supposed to have an attitude. They come across creeps like Craig all the time. What strikes me most about you Repub pervs is that you are so twisted that you cant be satisfied by regular cocksucking and buttfucking , but need to get your rocks off in the grossest way imaginable. Hitting on cops in a mensroom and textmessaging male minors for Chrissake. LMFAO!
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: BT on August 30, 2007, 07:41:48 PM
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It adds up perfectly. Craig is lying like a rug and making up phony excuses for his failures just like your Bushidiot Hero.
Cops are supposed to have an attitude. They come across creeps like Craig all the time. What strikes me most about you Repub pervs is that you are so twisted that you cant be satisfied by regular cocksucking and buttfucking , but need to get your rocks off in the grossest way imaginable. Hitting on cops in a mensroom and textmessaging male minors for Chrissake. LMFAO!

Did you even listen to the tape?

Explain how the left hand is the one under the stall when the cop was to his right and his feet didn't turn. The cop was very specific that he saw the wedding band. Even asked if he had had it on his right hand.

I don't know if Craig is  a cruiser or not. I do think that this arrest was part of revenue enhancement days. And as the cop said most plead guilty just so they can pay a fine and catch their connection.

The airport equivalent of a speed trap. Stinging gays.

Wasn't Mikey the one saying Minnesota was a perfect example of a progressive state, where tolerance shines?



Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Michael Tee on August 30, 2007, 07:54:05 PM
<<Wasn't Mikey the one saying Minnesota was a perfect example of a progressive state, where tolerance shines? >>

I never said that.  Find me the quote and the context and if any further explanation is needed, I'll be happy to explain.
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: BT on August 30, 2007, 08:14:27 PM
My mistake it was Crane singing the praises of Minnesota.

http://debategate.com/new3dhs/index.php?topic=3741.msg33665#msg33665
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: yellow_crane on August 30, 2007, 08:14:45 PM

I care little that Craig should be flung from the sleigh.   When he finally is at home for good behind the drawn drapes, the morning paper will bring him the news that he was voted the least liked gay among gays.

Say that the word 'alledged' needs to be included with the word "gay" here, and then suppose it is true.  Here is a man who was a closeted homosexual who took it upon himself to step forward well beyond the boundaries of demand and circumstance to trumpet that particular nonissue issue for the cause.  

This anti-gay horn blowing rankled every gay alive, of course.  

If he is outed with evidence, he will be shunned by the Republicans, the Idahoians, and the gays.   In fact, I can't think of anyone not having a bad taste in their mouth; you might even hate gays, but watching this kind of sleaze manuvering and hypocritical mendacity turns all stomachs.  You earn a special merit badge in hypocracy for the volunteering part.

He would not be able to stay in Idaho.

Romney better hope he is outed in a crystal fashion, because otherwise he was spotted abandoning with a snap his friend and working supporter at the first sign of trouble.  The prevailing metaphor in the media is "thrown under the bus" and that metaphor is specific with opportunism and betrayal.





Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: yellow_crane on August 30, 2007, 08:39:57 PM
My mistake it was Crane singing the praises of Minnesota.

http://debategate.com/new3dhs/index.php?topic=3741.msg33665#msg33665



My only reference was  "Minn., that metropolis of free intellect . . ."

I was not "singing the praises of Minnesota" because I was referring to the 'metropolis,' Minneapolis.

That said, I do sing the praises of Minneapolis.  Definately not Leavittown.
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Amianthus on August 30, 2007, 08:40:48 PM
Wasn't Mikey the one saying Minnesota was a perfect example of a progressive state, where tolerance shines?

That was Crane.
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Amianthus on August 31, 2007, 08:52:46 AM
I was not "singing the praises of Minnesota" because I was referring to the 'metropolis,' Minneapolis.

Yeah, all those brilliant people there. Can't figure out that foot bridges are not meant for vehicles...


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http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=263586 (http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=263586)
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Knutey on August 31, 2007, 09:52:48 AM
>Did you even listen to the tape?<

I listened and I heard a criminal creep making up lies to save his evil ass? You are so sick you think that the sting was against gays because you think that gays troll mensrooms. Only pervs like Republican closeted freaks cruise mensrooms. Gays are not the pervs. You guys are. THAT is what all this proves.
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Richpo64 on August 31, 2007, 12:17:59 PM
>>Resign now trash and go get help for your sickness<<

I'm going to have to agree. You've got to be more than a little sick to solicit sex in a public bathroom. Especially a public figure with so much to lose. The guy is obviously a sexual deviant, who needs him.
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: BT on August 31, 2007, 04:44:46 PM
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I'm going to have to agree. You've got to be more than a little sick to solicit sex in a public bathroom. Especially a public figure with so much to lose. The guy is obviously a sexual deviant, who needs him.

Either that or he is innocent. The left hand ring thing still bothers me.

Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Plane on August 31, 2007, 04:45:37 PM
actually this could a good character test for the party
alot of his supposed friends abandoned him
but some simply state they don`t agree or support the lifestyle but are still his friend.
who would you trust loyalty or suppsed ethics?


I can imagine you would throw your freind a rope if he was sinking in quicksand , and work hard to pull him out.

But if the rope was tied to his sinking body would you follow it down as it sank beyond all hope?

Barney Frank survived a debackle like this one and is all the stronger for it , but Republicans don't try as hard to save a stinker.
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Plane on August 31, 2007, 04:47:06 PM
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I'm going to have to agree. You've got to be more than a little sick to solicit sex in a public bathroom. Especially a public figure with so much to lose. The guy is obviously a sexual deviant, who needs him.

Either that or he is innocent. The left hand ring thing still bothers me.




Man ,proof of his innocence would be dinamite right now , but what could possibly be such a proof?
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Knutey on August 31, 2007, 06:36:00 PM
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I'm going to have to agree. You've got to be more than a little sick to solicit sex in a public bathroom. Especially a public figure with so much to lose. The guy is obviously a sexual deviant, who needs him.

Either that or he is innocent. The left hand ring thing still bothers me.



You would and have looked for , found and/or made up a lot of exculpating "evidence" to clear your fellow RW pervs
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on August 31, 2007, 07:14:41 PM
re: "Either that or he is innocent".

This married man has already plead guilty to charges relating to homosexual sex in a public restroom.
Others have come foward in the past associating him with outrageous homosexual behaviors.
It is not a reach to claim this man is a sexual deviant.
I think he should resign and seek help for his illness.


Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: BT on August 31, 2007, 09:17:27 PM
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This married man has already plead guilty to charges relating to homosexual sex in a public restroom.

Did he plead guilty to a lesser charge because he thought it the easiest way to make tis go away or did he plead guilty because he was in fact guilty.


Did you ever pay a speeding ticket because you didn't want to stay in the jail overnight waiting for the magistrate even though you did not speed?

Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on August 31, 2007, 09:37:07 PM
pleading guilty to a speeding ticket because you don't want to hassle with it and pleading guilty to charges relating to outrageous homosexual activity in a men's airport restroom seems like a bit of a stretch of a comparison but i understand what you are saying
however with the history and the guilty plea combined i think he is most likely a sick sick individual
he needs to resign and get help quick

Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: BT on August 31, 2007, 09:44:52 PM
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he needs to resign and get help quick

He most likely will resign because he has been thrown under the bus by his colleagues. Whether he needs help is up to him and his conscience.
Title: Re: this guy is guilty as hell
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 01, 2007, 09:03:53 AM
As for the cop that arrested Craig having an attitude, I can only add that sitting in an airport john stall, waiting for someone to come along and hit on one, would tend to give pretty much anyone an attitude.


Unless you count finishing the morning crossword puzzle and perhaps practicing braiding the toilet paper, it has to be a tedious chore, punctuated by unpleasantness.

One would tend to long for the day when one could hide behind a billboard awaiting speeders.