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Re: Sarah's Fancy Threads and Joe the Plumber's Family
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2008, 01:22:29 PM »
>> […] I remember for a while he tried to imply that Obama was an elitist.<<

Sure. After Barry said this about people in Pennsylvania while visiting big donors on California, "And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," what other conclusion can you come to?

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« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2008, 01:28:20 PM »
The money was contributed, as you so plainly state, and therefore it was no longer "The People's Money". If people didn't want their money spent on make overs and clothing for the campaign, they are free to not contribute. Everyone knows that the campaign funds are being used for food, clothing, personal accoutrements, hotels, etc. If they don't, then they are sorely lacking information.

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Obviously it's not that the money was spent, it's the lavish scale of the spending.  Particularly since this was a pretty good-looking and well-dressed family to begin with.

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« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2008, 01:31:26 PM »
Who paid for Hillary's suites?

I'm hearing they were donated by the designer. Same goes for Nazi Pelosi. At least Governor Palin paid for hers.

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« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2008, 01:38:24 PM »
I guess that some donors don't mind feeding the lily, but rebel at gilding the lily. Or gilding thee Sarah, in this case.

Would they have also been okay with paying for John Edward's expensive haircuts? As I recall, the Republicans made a really big deal about pricey haircuts. The issue here is that if you run on the platform of being "one of the people", do you stop being "one of the people" when you seek to go out and show the people that you are both "one of the people", and yet somehow qualified to LEAD the same people.

No one seems to actually want to follow Joe the Plumber, and even less "Joe Sixpack", whoever the Hell he might be.

Will Sara continue to eat mooseburgers once the GOP has stuffed her freezer with filet mignons? Will she lose her taste for mooseburgers and therefore side with the Friends of the Moose anti-moose hunting coalition? Or will she just look down her nose at anyone who is still eating mooseburgers?

I remember in 1952, some reporter took a shot of the sole of Adlai Stevenson's shoe, which had a hole in it. The Democrats used it to demonstrate that the somewhat intellectual Adlai was one of the folks. The Republicans made a bunch of signs with the holey sole and the legend "Don't let this happen to you", which I guess was supposed to suggest that the Democrats wanted the postwar economic slump that was going on at the time to continue.

I was every bit as dumb as the Joe the Plumber and the Pitbull with Lipstick schtick we have been forced to endure.

I imagine that Hillary probably paid for her own suits (clothes), and almost certainly the suites of furniture in her home, (as in bedroom suites, living room suites) but her campaign paid for her suites (as in hotel suites).
But Hillary was not trying to sell herself as one of the mooseburger-eating, coupon cutting, beer-swilling middle class, was she?


People who sell furniture always fail to distinguish the pronunciation of suit (rhymes with toot) and suite (rhymes with tweet).
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« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2008, 01:44:08 PM »
After Barry said this about people in Pennsylvania while visiting big donors on California, "And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," what other conclusion can you come to?

Any SANE THINKING person would come to the conclusion that Obama had a profound understanding of the way these people thought.
Joblessness and having to take a lower-paying job with few or no benefits makes people feel insecure.

Religion makes some people feel secure. At least Jesus is on my side.

Guns make other people feel secure, like whatever dangerous weapons Richie is holding to blast the heads off the rioting Negroes that might invade his cul-de-sac at any moment.

What Obama said was simply TRUE.

Don't we want a president who understands the way people think?

I am pretty sure I do.

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« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2008, 02:40:20 PM »
<<But Hillary was not trying to sell herself as one of the mooseburger-eating, coupon cutting, beer-swilling middle class, was she?>>

Except for the time she was trying to knock back shots with a beer chaser in a working-class bar.

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« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2008, 04:08:08 PM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/23/campbell-brown-calls-out_n_137106.html

Here's a CNN report indicating that Obama's suits are only $1,500, not $5,000 as Ami claimed earlier in this thread.  Ami more than tripled the cost of the suits.

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« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2008, 04:09:50 PM »
<<But Hillary was not trying to sell herself as one of the mooseburger-eating, coupon cutting, beer-swilling middle class, was she?>>

Except for the time she was trying to knock back shots with a beer chaser in a working-class bar.

Oh Yes that was great!

Hehehe...

So about the shoe thing , did BHO reenact the Adlai Stevenson shoe photo?






http://www.undiplomatic.net/2008/08/06/if-the-shoe-fits-adlai-stevenson-metaphor-watch/

http://obamaporn.tumblr.com/
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« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2008, 04:18:08 PM »



I don't care , funny is its own justifacation.

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« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2008, 05:24:26 PM »
Here's a CNN report indicating that Obama's suits are only $1,500, not $5,000 as Ami claimed earlier in this thread.  Ami more than tripled the cost of the suits.

I don't know a $1,500 suit from a $5,000 suit; I just read that the suits he wears run $5,000. Mine are under $600.

I don't really care how much he spends on clothes. Nor do I care how much Palin spends on clothes. Appearance seems to the bailiwick of the Democrats.
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« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2008, 05:35:44 PM »
In addition, while he normally buys $1,500 suits, his nomination suit was custom made for him and the tailor will not reveal how much he spent:

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Thursday night, when Obama will accept the presidential nomination, he will wear a navy blue, worsted wool two-button suit that Hartmarx custom made just for him. Hartmarx is a 121-year-old Chicago-based manufacturer of high-end men's suits.

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Hartmarx CEO Homi Patel said: "We don't talk about this because we've been making suits for presidents, vice presidents and senators for more than 100 years. The reason we continue making them is because we don't talk about it."
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1131869,CST-NWS-fashion28WEB.article
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« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2008, 05:42:15 PM »
<<I don't know a $1,500 suit from a $5,000 suit; I just read that the suits he wears run $5,000. Mine are under $600.>>

Let me guess:  WSJ?  NY Post?  Washington Times?  National Review?

I used to get suits custom-made for about $700 cash to my dad's tailor.  He'd usually bump the cost up by another hundred bucks by getting me to buy a shirt and tie that he thought went especially well with the suit for another $70 - $80 cash.  Owing to the personal dynamic in play, only a real jerk could refuse.   I got one once custom-made at a very high-class shop for $1,500 retail, credit-card sale and my dad hit the roof.  It looked great but wasn't any better than the ones my dad's guy made for $700 cash.  After my dad passed away, I started going with my wife to retail stores and buying "off the rack" for under $300 on Boxing Day sales.  These look pretty good as far as I can tell.  Nobody really knows the difference and I never let the store jack me into a shirt and tie to go with.  My dad's generation would have spotted the difference right away, but they're long gone.

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Re: Sarah's Fancy Threads and Joe the Plumber's Family
« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2008, 05:42:39 PM »
In addition, while he normally buys $1,500 suits, his nomination suit was custom made for him and the tailor will not reveal how much he spent:

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Thursday night, when Obama will accept the presidential nomination, he will wear a navy blue, worsted wool two-button suit that Hartmarx custom made just for him. Hartmarx is a 121-year-old Chicago-based manufacturer of high-end men's suits.

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Hartmarx CEO Homi Patel said: "We don't talk about this because we've been making suits for presidents, vice presidents and senators for more than 100 years. The reason we continue making them is because we don't talk about it."
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1131869,CST-NWS-fashion28WEB.article


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« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2008, 05:45:31 PM »
My dad's generation would have spotted the difference right away, but they're long gone.


Are these suits made in Canada?