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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Christians4LessGvt on July 29, 2015, 07:58:20 AM

Title: China tries to turn back clock...Commies worry about freedom
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on July 29, 2015, 07:58:20 AM
China is worried about openness the internet brings....
tries to crush freedom
It will never work long term


http://www.wsj.com/articles/china-pushes-to-rewrite-rules-of-global-internet-1438112980
Title: Re: China tries to turn back clock...Commies worry about freedom
Post by: Plane on July 29, 2015, 09:18:23 AM
http://www.technologynewschina.com/2015/07/china-pushes-to-rewrite-rules-of-global.html

That is a good article .

This makes me think about the rights of government and the rights of individuals.

It may be hard to make a case for an individual right to porn, games ,kittens ,auctions and propaganda.

The government does have a responsibility , and thereby a right, to protect its people from cheats .

But is there an individual right to search for truth?

Or is a government fairly able to define what truth is?
Title: Re: China tries to turn back clock...Commies worry about freedom
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on July 29, 2015, 12:35:58 PM
The Chinese do not tend to react inn the way that editorial writers of the WSJ do.
Perhaps China should restrict the Internet less, but the WSJ is not any sort of expert on what the Chinese will tolerate from their government.
The unspoken arrangement between the Chinese and their leaders is that in return for keeping the economy growing and improving the lot of the average citizen, the people will generally agree to tolerate government intrusions of the sort that China employs. Not all Chinese, but most, adhere to this.

It is not an attitude unknown to this country, as we see from sir's insistence on blind obedience without protest to anything Officer Friendly orders, with the realization that Officer Friendly has the right to inflict any immediate punishment or humiliation that comes to mind with impunity.  That is pretty much the attitude taken by most Chinese, based on what my Taiwanese friend, who is married to a mainlander, tells me.

The Chinese have a custom of collectivism that extends many centuries back before Mao, Chaing or even Sun Yat-Sen.