McCain and the Conservatives

[sirs]

"Nothing useful ever happens when the President and the Congress are of different parties"

Didn't we get Welfare Reform under Clinton & a Republican Congress?

AND some fiscal discipline, when Congress wouldn't allow Clinton to spend like a drunken sailor

[Xavier_Onassis]

AND some fiscal discipline, when Congress wouldn't allow Clinton to spend like a drunken sailor
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Juniorbush & Cheney have been pissing away money like a whole drunken navy. Borrow and squander is even worse than tax and spend. Of course, this is just to defend us from all those Iraqis that are threatening to walk across the ocean and kick us all in the nuts.

Expecting restraint from the GOP is like expecting sobriety from Ned the Wino.


 
 

[Amianthus]

Expecting restraint from the GOP is like expecting sobriety from Ned the Wino.

Good thing the current Democratic Congress is keeping a tight reign on the pocketbook, huh?

[sirs]

AND some fiscal discipline, when Congress wouldn't allow Clinton to spend like a drunken sailor
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Juniorbush & Cheney have been pissing away money like a whole drunken navy.

And again with Cheney, as if he's so involved in this process.  Seriously Xo, this fetish with Cheney is bordering on unhealthy.  But more to the point, the acute LACK of fiscal discipline is precisly one of the reasons conservatives knew before Bush's inauguration, that he wasn't this hard core RW conservative, you guys kept trying to paint him as, and one of the reasons he's consistely criticized by Conservatives.    Thankfully we had a GOP congress that did prevent Clinton from spending like a drunken navy

Borrow and squander (spend) is even worse than tax and spend (squander).

No, they're EQUALLY as bad. 

Of course, this is just to defend us from all those Iraqis that are threatening to walk across the ocean and kick us all in the nuts.

Ahhh, the ever famous leftist lie on why we're in Iraq.  Food for the ignorant

Expecting restraint from the GOP is like expecting sobriety from Ned the Wino.

More of that projection phenomenon, I see

Expecting restraint from the GOP is like expecting sobriety from Ned the Wino.

Good thing the current Democratic Congress is keeping a tight reign on the pocketbook, huh?

 

[Xavier_Onassis]

Borrow and squander (spend) is even worse than tax and spend (squander).


No, they're EQUALLY as bad. 

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Untrue: Borrow and squander results is a much larger deficit.
By squander I mean piss away money that could be spent for Americans in America on an unwinnable war in Iraq.

There is and was NO reason to invade Iraq. Spending more on it will not give it a purpose.

[sirs]

Borrow and squander (spend) is even worse than tax and spend (squander).

No, they're EQUALLY as bad. 
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Untrue: Borrow and squander results is a much larger deficit.

Tax and squander results in just as much deficit as the above....with the common denominator SPEND

By squander I mean piss away money that could be spent for Americans in America on an unwinnable war in Iraq.

And by squander, I mean piss away money in an ever expanding egregious extra-constitutional bureacracy, that makes it harder and harder for the average American to better themselves, in an unwinnable cycle of ever-increasing Government

There is and was NO reason to invade Iraq.

Says you.

Spending more on it will not give it a purpose.

Yes, it will, though the purpose has been there since the get go.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Yes, it will, though the purpose has been there since the get go.
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What purpose? To insure full employment for munitions makers, uniform makers, mercenary armies like Blackwater?

Or was it to prevent Saddam from nuking us (Condi's 'mushroom cloud')?

There was no reason to invade, and now that Saddam is gone, all that remains is to leave. It's their country, it will never be our country.

[sirs]

Yes, it will, though the purpose has been there since the get go.
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What purpose?

Been there, said it
- to cease any possibility Saddam may have had at offloading some of his WMD (that nearly everyone believed he had, including nearly the entire global intelligence community), into the hands of terrorists, such as AlQeada, that iraq did have both direct and indirect ties with.

As I said, been there since the get go

There was no reason to invade,

The intel and common sense, said otherwise.

and now that Saddam is gone, all that remains is to leave.

As soon as we fix it, and they say its fixed.  Then I'm right there with you

It's their country, it will never be our country.

Good thing then, we never wanted it

[The_Professor]

If Sirs stays home and a Democrat wins, then Richie's cunning ploy of  voting for Hillary will have been in vain.

Careful reading shows that Sirs will vote for McCain.

UP is a libertarian, my guess is he will vote for the Libertarian candidate.

Rich's ploy to vote for Hillary will be in in only if she wins the nomination. And that depends on the number of corpses left on the side of the road in her wake.

I wonder if the Big Money Guys of the Party will allow this bloodbath to continue. This black versus white "thang" could cause longterm hurt to the Party and they know it, or do they?

[Rich]

<<Rich's ploy to vote for Hillary will be in in only if she wins the nomination. And that depends on the number of corpses left on the side of the road in her wake.<<

The ploy was to ensure that there are corpses, not to ensure Mrs. Clinton's nomination. The ploy was keep them pecking each others eyes so we won't have to.  Although I, and I think most Republicans believe Mrs. Clinton will be easier to defeat.