The Meaning of Mumbai

[Amianthus]

Sowell wants EVERYONE to go fight terrorism.

Could you point out where he said this?

[Xavier_Onassis]

Sowell wants EVERYONE to go fight terrorism.

Could you point out where he said this?
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Here's what he said:

The people who flew those planes into the World Trade Center buildings could not have been bought off by any concessions, not even the hundreds of billions of dollars we are spending in bailout money today.

They want our soul-- and if they are willing to die and we are not, they will get it.

He did not say some of us, he was talking presumably about anyone with a soul.

[Amianthus]

He did not say some of us, he was talking presumably about anyone with a soul.

I think you read way to much into that statement. I read that as "willing to use force" such as our military against terrorists. The military does not include everyone.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I think you read way to much into that statement. I read that as "willing to use force" such as our military against terrorists. The military does not include everyone.


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Have we ever had a problem with the military refusing to kill enemies?
I can't recall this happening on any major scale at all.

[Amianthus]

Have we ever had a problem with the military refusing to kill enemies?
I can't recall this happening on any major scale at all.

Again, you're reading it wrong. It's not about the willingness of the military to kill enemies, it's about the willingness of the military's civilian authority to order the military to kill enemies.

[Xavier_Onassis]

It's not about the willingness of the military to kill enemies, it's about the willingness of the military's civilian authority to order the military to kill enemies.

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Have they had a problem with that?

How many peple have died in Iraq and Afghanistan? I am guessing that more have died there than have been proven to be enemies. Perhaps they are killing the wrong ones, but there has been no lack of killing by the Juniorbushies.

[Amianthus]

Have they had a problem with that?

Under certain administrations.

[BSB]

>>The people who flew those planes into the World Trade Center buildings could not have been bought off by any concessions, not even the hundreds of billions of dollars we are spending in bailout money today.

They want our soul-- and if they are willing to die and we are not, they will get it.<<


The people who were actually onboard those planes could have been "bought off", if you will, in a NY second if they thought others in their wider group felt it was the wrong thing to do. They did it because it was accepted and expected of them. No different then American soldiers who do what is expected of them, and by and large won't do what is not accepted or expected.

 

[Xavier_Onassis]

The people who were actually on board those planes could have been "bought off", if you will, in a NY second if they thought others in their wider group felt it was the wrong thing to do. They did it because it was accepted and expected of them. No different then American soldiers who do what is expected of them, and by and large won't do what is not accepted or expected.

I agree with this completely. It takes a lot of fanatical conviction to commit suicide for any cause. When people come to realize that such fanatical martyrdom accomplishes very little, they will cease to participate.

In Palestine, the main impulse to continue with suicide bombings seems to be the videos that are sold and distributed everywhere, and of course, the sense of utter despair of the Palestinian young men who see no future in continuing to be unemployed refugees that are rejected even as street sweepers and garbage haulers.

This stuff about "they want our soul" is a bit silly.

 How would they ever know that they had taken possession of a soul?

[sirs]

Mr. Literal strikes again           

[Xavier_Onassis]

So what does "they want our soul" mean to you, metaphorically?

I suggest it makes no sense at all.

[Plane]

So what does "they want our soul" mean to you, metaphorically?

I suggest it makes no sense at all.

I think you could take it literally and not be far off, they have a desire to make the planet Islamic , such that every desire contrary to this is evil. So in a literal sense they want your soul.

They also want your stuff , and that is less poetic if not less true.

[sirs]

So what does "they want our soul" mean to you, metaphorically?   I suggest it makes no sense at all.

....They also want your stuff , and that is less poetic if not less true.

Ahhh, but you see, Mr Literal will come back to claim that they wouldn't have the room for all "your stuff", and why would they want your Gene Autry CD collection

[Xavier_Onassis]

It is as absurd to believe that they are going to convert Americans to Islam as it would be to believe that Americans are going to convert Muslims to Baptists or Mormons.
 The whole "they want your soul" crap is just silly hyperbole.

[richpo64]

>>It is as absurd to believe that they are going to convert Americans to Islam as it would be to believe that Americans are going to convert Muslims to Baptists or Mormons.<<

This idiot really needs a history course.