8 really, really scary predictions

[Christians4LessGvt]

8 really, really scary predictions:
Dow 4,000. Food shortages. A bubble in Treasury notes. Fortune spoke to eight
of the market's sharpest thinkers and what they had to say about the future is frightening.

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/fortune/0812/gallery.market_gurus.fortune/index.html

[Henny]

Good God.

[BSB]

Could someone post the article, it doesn't show up for me.

[Christians4LessGvt]

BSB....the article is like 8 pages long thats why I didnt post it.

Try this link:

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:iv0zPgKv-OMJ:money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/fortune/0812/gallery.market_gurus.fortune/index.html+8+really+really+scary+predictions&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

[BSB]

Thanks for trying again, ChristiansUnited, but that page just doesn't say anything about 8 scary predictions on my system.

I'll say this. I don't know what they predicted, but nothing would surprise me. 

 

[Christians4LessGvt]

BSB...

Here's the 1st page:

Nouriel Roubini Known as Dr. Doom,
the NYU economics professor saw the mortgage-related meltdown coming.

We are in the middle of a very severe recession that's going to continue through all of 2009 - the worst U.S. recession in the past 50 years. It's the bursting of a huge leveraged-up credit bubble. There's no going back, and there is no bottom to it. It was excessive in everything from subprime to prime, from credit cards to student loans, from corporate bonds to muni bonds. You name it. And it's all reversing right now in a very, very massive way. At this point it's not just a U.S. recession. All of the advanced economies are at the beginning of a hard landing. And emerging markets, beginning with China, are in a severe slowdown. So we're having a global recession and it's becoming worse.

Things are going to be awful for everyday people. U.S. GDP growth is going to be negative through the end of 2009. And the recovery in 2010 and 2011, if there is one, is going to be so weak - with a growth rate of 1% to 1.5% - that it's going to feel like a recession. I see the unemployment rate peaking at around 9% by 2010. The value of homes has already fallen 25%. In my view, home prices are going to fall by another 15% before bottoming out in 2010.

For the next 12 months I would stay away from risky assets. I would stay away from the stock market. I would stay away from commodities. I would stay away from credit, both high-yield and high-grade. I would stay in cash or cashlike instruments such as short-term or longer-term government bonds. It's better to stay in things with low returns rather than to lose 50% of your wealth. You should preserve capital. It'll be hard and challenging enough. I wish I could be more cheerful, but I was right a year ago, and I think I'll be right this year too.

By Beth Kowitt, Jon Birger and Brian O'Keefe

[Christians4LessGvt]

BSB here's page 2:

Bill Gross
The founder of bond giant Pimco warned of a subprime contagion back in July 2007.

While 2008 will probably be best known as the year that global stock markets had their values cut in half, it was really much, much more. It was a year in which every major asset class - stocks, real estate, commodities, even high-yield bonds - suffered significant double-digit percentage losses, resulting in the destruction of over $30 trillion of paper wealth. To blame this on subprime mortgages alone would be to dismiss an era of leveraging that encompassed derivative structures of all types, embodying a belief that economic growth was always and everywhere a certainty and that asset prices never go down. As 2008 nears its conclusion, we as an investor nation have been forced to face a new reality. Wall Street and Main Street are fearful that a recession may be replaced by a near depression.

The outcome essentially depends on the ability of the Obama administration to rejuvenate capitalism's "animal spirits" by substituting the benevolent fist of government for the now invisible hand of Adam Smith. Federal spending and guarantees in the trillions of dollars will be required to fill the gap created by the deleveraging of private balance sheets. In turn, lenders and investors alike must begin to assume risk as opposed to stuffing money in modern-day investment mattresses. The process will take time. Twelve months of the Obama Nation will not be sufficient to heal the damage of a half-century's excessive leverage. The downsizing of private risk positions - replaced by government credit - will also result in reduced profit margins and a slower rate of earnings growth after the bottom is reached.

Investors need to recognize these titanic shifts in market and public policies and be content with single-digit returns in future years. Perhaps the most lucrative pockets of value are in high-quality corporate bonds and preferred stocks of banks and financial institutions that have partnered with the government in programs such as the Troubled Assets Relief Program (TARP). While their profitability may be restricted, their ability to pay interest and preferred dividends should be unhampered. Above all, stick to high-quality companies and asset classes. The road to recovery will be treacherous.

[BSB]

Muchos Gracious, Hombre.

>>Things are going to be awful for everyday people.<<

That is the scary part. My grandfather, a construction worker, told me that during the depression he would take the train into Boston and stand around a fire of scrap wood all day. He never told his family he wasn't working. Somehow he'd saved enough to get through it.

[Christians4LessGvt]

I liked this lady this morning an CNBC SQUAWK BOX:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=960926779