Author Topic: So, what gun control being pushed by the left, would have prevented SC killings?  (Read 7660 times)

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sirs

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Since the good professor is actively trying to ignore the 800lb gun in the room, let's ask the question more directly.  Keeping in mind, that the question is serious, so some statement of a blanket ban on guns is moot, as that's neither going to happen, nor being proposed

We have the President taking this tragedy, proclaiming how congress needs to act to pass gun control legislation that has stalled in congress.  So, what specifically, in ANY of this stalled gun control legislation, would have prevented this racist moron from killing??
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REGISTER ALL GUNS.

Have the NSA check the Internet for  websites like the "Last Rhodesian" to assure that people like Roof do not own guns.
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sirs

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REGISTER ALL GUNS.

And how would that have prevented the killings??

"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Register guns, cross reference  gun ownership with people that have hate groups like the Last Rhodesian, and then bust them and take away their guns.

Really quite simple.

This is what I believe the Swiss do.
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/call-for-death-penalty-in-shooting-but-state-lacks-the-drug/ar-AAbU18E

Perhaps the best candidate for the death penalty SC will have this decade, and it is too hard to get the proper drug.

Death penalty opponents can be proud.

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Register guns, cross reference  gun ownership with people that have hate groups like the Last Rhodesian, and then bust them and take away their guns.

Really quite simple.

This is what I believe the Swiss do.

This young fellow has very few infractions on his record.

So we need the thought police , who will make his rights as a citizen depend on his political correctness.

I doubt that the Swiss do that.

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Exactly
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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WHY DO GUNMEN TARGET CHURCHES AND SCHOOLS,
NOT NRA MEETINGS?


In the wake of the heinous attack on Charleston's Emanuel American Methodist Episcopal Church, Democrats' ritual calls for more gun control have louder than usual, and a mainstream media's focus on the threat of "mass shootings" has been kicked up a notch.

The question none of the Democrats or media outlets have asked is why gunmen, historically speaking, attack churches and school but bypass NRA meetings?

Why do they target Fort Hood twice within a five years period while opening fire in Walmart remains unpopular?

To ask the questions is to answer them. Law-abiding citizens are largely prohibited from possessing guns for self-defense in churches and schools around the country, but they may be heavily and openly armed at an NRA meeting. Likewise, soldiers are then mandated to be unarmed on stateside military bases while law-abiding shoppers at Walmart can and frequently do carry guns to protect themselves and their families.

Consider James Holmes, the individual who allegedly shot and killed 12 and wounded 70 during a July 20, 2012, showing of "The Dark Knight Rises" at an Aurora movie theater. Shortly after the attack, Fox News reported that there were seven movie theaters showing the film within a 20-minute radius of Holmes? residence, some of which were closer than the Cinemark theater he attacked.

For example, the Cinemark theater was a four mile long, eight minute car ride, while another theater showing the film "was only 1.2 miles (3 minutes) away." But of all the theaters within a 20-minute radius, including the one just three minutes away, the Cinemark theater was the only one that barred law-abiding citizens from carrying guns for self-defense.

The lesson is clear: Gun control literally enables criminals; it makes their lives easier by guaranteeing otherwise pesky and determined victims will not have the ability to defend themselves once the shooting starts.

Example: A survivor from the attack on Charleston's Emanuel African American Episcopal Church said her only course of action against the gunman was to plead with him to stop.

Unarmed people are vulnerable people, and criminal predators prey upon them.

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Guns should be registered in National Gun Registry.

Advocating bringing guns to church is bullshit. That is blaming the victims.  The blame is entirely on the racist twerp who  decided to do his part to exterminate Black Americans.
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sirs

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And notice how the question couldn't be answered.....in that nothing being proposed would have stopped these murders.  That once again, the left is trying to use a tragedy to simply push more Government control over its citizenry

And there's not a damn reason what-so-ever, that a law abiding gun owner shouldn't be allowed to carry a firearm into a church.  This isn't about mandating that someone be armed in a church, this is again about the concept of freedom.  The notion that a responsble legal gun owner not be allowed to, simply is a self fulfulling prophrecy as to your so-called "useless gun nuts".  How can they be useful, if they're not even allowed to be in places that may be targeted??
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Again. guns should be registered in a national gun registry.

Churches have a perfect right to refuse entry of people with guns, or to require people to check their guns at the entrance, as was done in Wichita back in the days of the cattle drives.

Unrestricted guns are part of the problem, one of the larger parts of the problem.  The Second Amendment would not be violated by requiring registration, just as it allows for cities to require registration.

If nothing is done, nothing will change. Every American will be more likely to be a victim.
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sirs

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And again....Registration would have done nothing to have prevented this murder from happening. 

And no one is advocating "unrestricted guns", Dr Arguing-a-pont-no-one-is-making

And registration absolutely violates the concept of the 2nd amendment.  If Government knows who and where the law abiding guns are, then at some point where "national security" is at stake, such weapons could then be confiscated.  The point of the Bill of Rights, are restrictions ON GOVERNMENT, not the people.  It's freedoms that the Government is legally not allowed to subvert.  Shall we register everyone free speech??  Should you not be allowed to spew whatever vitriole at some Republican President, because its deemed too hateful, and may facilitate others to go out and do harm to others?  It's the same concept as some Federal Firearms Registration

And before you pull out the literal card, in decrying to that yelling at some Republican isn't killing anyone, the point is that the Bill of Rights is a Constitutional contract, that LIMITS what the Government can do its citizenry.  And that includes firearms
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Advocating bringing guns to church is bullshit.

No....what is bullshit is knowing and allowing only the bad guys to be armed with guns.

I was in church yesterday and was happy to know a friend had his concealed/carry permit and was armed.

At least we'd have a fighting chance!
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Ditto......in that case, I was the one with the CCW
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So, you go to church to have a fighting chance?

Maybe when there are 660 million guns in the country, so everyone has a gun foir each hand, we will all be safer.

You are simply nucking futz.

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