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Re: Obama is our next president
« Reply #75 on: October 20, 2008, 11:51:46 PM »
Oh please.

Clinton was a Fullbright scholar and graduated at the top of his class.

Palin managed to barely get a BA degree from five colleges in six years.

She can see Russia from her porch, she says, and that makes her an expert.

The fact is that the only part of Alaska where you can see Russia from is thousands of miles from Juneau and over a thousand from Wasilla. It's way out on a forgotten island where only some Eskimos live.

Time will tell about Sarah Palin. But she is a whole lot higher on the ditz scale than anyone else who has ever run for any national office.
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Re: Obama is our next president
« Reply #76 on: October 21, 2008, 04:56:43 AM »
Racism still causes the US problems but we work hard on it , where in the world are there more integrated neighborhoods ? More protections in law for minoritys? More tolerance in practice?

You could name damn near anywhere in Latin America or Europe. You really need to get out more.

The new way to segregate neighborhoods is by zoning, in the event you were unaware.Zoning by price of home, number of bedrooms, banning rentals, there are dozens of ways.

The ONE BIGGEST THING you could ever do to battle racism is to vote for Obama, and you know this.
And yet you drone on about "strict constructionists" and nonexistent socialism and other crap like you were actually a ultimega zillionaire or the hack he hired for doing his PR.

Well I have been to Panama , a lot of Carribbian islands , Halifax, Spain , Italy , Sudan ,Dijoubuti,Jordan, Baharain, Scotia , Kenya . That is about all the other countrys I went to I don't want to claim because the visit was short.

However , I do read a lot of National Geographic.

The one biggest thing you could do to fight racism is to stop advocating voting by race , there are Mayors and Govenors all over the country that have received the vote of their citizens that don't share their race , but this works a lot better when the result is a good and capable fellow is therreby put in office. Atlanta has had some good luck with  Mayors , Macon has had good and bad luck with its Mayors , Marshall was good , Ronnie Tomson was not and  Jack Ellis was not , can you guess the race by whether I think they were good mayors?



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Re: Obama is our next president
« Reply #77 on: October 21, 2008, 11:08:39 AM »
Scotia?  Do you mean Nova Scotia?  Scotia is a Latinized name for Scotland, although the most common Latin name for it was Caledonia.

In Panama, neighborhoods are integrated. Families are integrated: Chinese, East Indians, West Indians, American Indians, Spanish, Colombians, Dutch, Jews, everyone. Most Caribbean Islands have integrated neighborhoods.

I have no idea which mayors have served Macon better. If I lived there, I would know. But the election of Obama would signify that racism is no longer a major factor in the US. Besides, McCain is just a rerun of Juniorbush. He croaks and we get true incompetence.
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Re: Obama is our next president
« Reply #78 on: October 21, 2008, 12:31:03 PM »
Scotia?  Do you mean Nova Scotia?  Scotia is a Latinized name for Scotland, although the most common Latin name for it was Caledonia.

In Panama, neighborhoods are integrated. Families are integrated: Chinese, East Indians, West Indians, American Indians, Spanish, Colombians, Dutch, Jews, everyone. Most Caribbean Islands have integrated neighborhoods.

I have no idea which mayors have served Macon better. If I lived there, I would know. But the election of Obama would signify that racism is no longer a major factor in the US. Besides, McCain is just a rerun of Juniorbush. He croaks and we get true incompetence.

I threw Scotia in just for fun , and I misspelled it wouldn't you know ,since you spotted it you deserve an explanation, so I looked it up ("SOCOTRA") it is an island and I didn't even meet its native permanant population ,but when we met the Soviet Fleet there it temporaily had a big population in its lee ,that was a big event for me but it would take a rediculously long explanation to explain why.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/ym.html
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2260938/CIA-World-Factbook-Reference-Map-middle-east

Socotra is not Greek in origin, but derives from the Sanskrit dvipa sukhadhara ("island of bliss").
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socotra

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Re: Obama is our next president
« Reply #79 on: October 21, 2008, 12:40:47 PM »
Scotia?  Do you mean Nova Scotia?  Scotia is a Latinized name for Scotland, although the most common Latin name for it was Caledonia.

In Panama, neighborhoods are integrated. Families are integrated: Chinese, East Indians, West Indians, American Indians, Spanish, Colombians, Dutch, Jews, everyone. Most Caribbean Islands have integrated neighborhoods.

I have no idea which mayors have served Macon better. If I lived there, I would know. But the election of Obama would signify that racism is no longer a major factor in the US. Besides, McCain is just a rerun of Juniorbush. He croaks and we get true incompetence.

In Atlanta a succession of Black Mayors have served well mostly IN Macon there has been one and he was very divisive to the community , just being an elected Black man did nothing to unite Macon , Macon is almost exactly 50% black so it could use some unification across those lines , but don't depend on this unless the Mayor is interested in doing something about it.

In Atlanta I really admired the efforts of Andrew Young he did exactly as you hope BHO will do and served the whole community .

But will BHO reduce racial tention?  We may have to find out ,but that he is likely to get 95% or better of the black vote will not help, John Murtha calling his own constituents Redneck racists won't help and threatening the USA with the worlds opprobrium for not electing BHO will not unite us much either.

All in all I think that his being Black is helping him get elected but won't help him govern , perhaps he has what it takes in his mind and heart , but you just can't convince me that he has what it takes in his skin.

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Re: Obama is our next president
« Reply #80 on: October 21, 2008, 12:55:00 PM »
Oh please.

Clinton was a Fullbright scholar and graduated at the top of his class.

Palin managed to barely get a BA degree from five colleges in six years.

She can see Russia from her porch, she says, and that makes her an expert.

The fact is that the only part of Alaska where you can see Russia from is thousands of miles from Juneau and over a thousand from Wasilla. It's way out on a forgotten island where only some Eskimos live.

Time will tell about Sarah Palin. But she is a whole lot higher on the ditz scale than anyone else who has ever run for any national office.

Is is not Clinton who started the ball in motion which brought this country in the financial mess we're in?  ...Making it easy for people to attain loans...
HE wasn't LOOKING OUT of his own window to notice the slow burn of terrorism rolling into mainstreet.
 He was too busy charming others. No amount of degrees or a personal accolades seemed to make any difference when it came to the job he didn't do for this nation. He used his "so called intelligence" to wiggle out of "sticky situations".
Oh yea, and Palin is THE ditz?  ::)
 Billy could have put more money into the military, but he apparently made  MORE cuts securing this country. I have always said that the war in Iraq, albeit not a wise call, would not have dragged out as long as it has if we had had a better military plan. With what resources??
Clinton was a "nobody" before his name came up to center stage----Palin is at least wise, smart, passionate about the truth,  and strong enough to say NO to the good old boys!   


We shall see ....words to keep close to the vest not to be taken lightly. Keeps us on our toes in clear focus for the next time around. Woulda Coulda Shoulda...words to use wisely for furture reference.

Clinton might have been a scholar, but he is more like the Hare in the race against the Tortoise.
His cocky attitude almost brought him to his knees--on the verge of being kicked out of office. ....
Oh yea, he's someone to praise.  


There are many strong, and intelligent women in the political world. I'm sure someday we shall see a woman change the course of this country at the highest level.

Palin is one to watch.

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Re: Obama is our next president
« Reply #81 on: October 21, 2008, 01:28:08 PM »
Aside from Cindy's personal tirade against Clinton, whom I have many problems with, but his sleeping partners are not one of them - she does begin a point I have always been fascinated with.

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There are many strong, and intelligent women in the political world. I'm sure someday we shall see a woman change the course of this country at the highest level.

Of course we have already seen women change the course of not only American history, but world history. That is not in question. Will we see a female president of the United States? Of course.

What amazes me in the modern Republican Party is that the most keenly intelligent members are never presented on a national stage. Before the hateful replies begin, I don't mean that the Democrats are all smarter by any means. Both parties have their highly intelligent academics and both have their "who would you rather have a beer with?" candidates. And no, having a graduate degree is not an automatic qualification for being highly intelligent or intellectual.

Yet, if we look at the primary race we can see that someone like Mitt Romney shows a lot of intelligence (whether one agrees with him or not). Senator McCain is someone who is by no means an idiot, but is an average guy who had he not been shot down over Vietnam would likely have been a career captain in the Navy and eventually found to a desk job in Washington. Senator Obama, on the other hand, is an exceptionally intelligent individual who has shown a ruthlessness in his political acumen (read about his quick climb in the pugilist world of Chicago politics).

I wonder if some of that has to do with the anti-intellectualism and anti-elitism notions that prevail with Republican voters, especially amongst evangelicals. Sarah Palin is a lightweight. It has nothing to do with her gender, her hobbies, or her state of origin. It is her. She has a ruthless political side, but such little intelligence to back it up. And one has to ask, why didn't they select a Republican woman with much more intelligence and a better standing? Why not Lingle of Hawaii? She has more experience and in a Democratic state. How many GOP congresswomen are there? None of them are smarter, better candidates?

This idea of "executive experience" is justification after the fact. The GOP's first President was just a Congressman and he inherited a hell of a lot worse crisis than anything we've faced since. Running a business? Have you ever met some of these business owners? Have you sat down with some of them and really talked? Some are brilliant. Some are friggin' morons and you wouldn't want them running your local parks, let alone the country.

I'm not buying it. I have nothing against Palin personally, but politically she's a lightweight. And what really amazes me is that the GOP has this knack of electing and selecting sub-par candidates. Not that the Democrats are shining stars, but they did well in 2000 and I think they've done well this year.
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Re: Obama is our next president
« Reply #82 on: October 21, 2008, 06:57:22 PM »
anyone wonder if the kiss and make up for Hillary was instigated by Obama's deep pocket and her large campaign debts?

She is a savvy woman and me thinks that if she could stay married to Bill to keep her career on track, she sure as hell could take a campaign promise from her party.


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Re: Obama is our next president
« Reply #83 on: October 21, 2008, 08:53:02 PM »
I think being a senator from New York is a really good job for a politician.
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