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Something is "not right" about this Ebola stuff....
« on: October 01, 2014, 12:45:54 PM »
On one hand the government tells us Ebola is not an airborne illness...
is transmitted through bodily fluids...casual contact not normally result in transmission
but all the workers you see transporting them are in something that looks like a space-suit.
To me those two thing don't jive.






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Re: Something is "not right" about this Ebola stuff....
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2014, 01:05:30 PM »
Oh and by the way....
was the guy that unknowingly brought Ebola into this country a US Citizen?
Figures!
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Re: Something is "not right" about this Ebola stuff....
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2014, 01:20:10 PM »
IIRC, these patients are under what's called "Droplet Isolation", which means fluids can be a means of transference.  That's why the excessive suiting...although I agree its indeed excessive, since any of our patients in droplet isolation, require simple glove, gown, mask, and if indicated, eye protection.  Since the point is to prevent any fluid contact to enter into your body via an access fluid could, such as the eye, mouth, orifice, or any open wound
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Re: Something is "not right" about this Ebola stuff....
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2014, 01:29:59 PM »
IIRC, these patients are under what's called "Droplet Isolation", which means fluids can be a means of transference. 

Thank you SIRS...for the clarification.
So are you saying a sneeze or cough could transmit Ebola?

Since the point is to prevent any fluid contact to enter into your body via an
access fluid could, such as the eye, mouth, orifice, or any open wound

You mention eye, mouth....does it also include nose?
And what about an ear?
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Re: Something is "not right" about this Ebola stuff....
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2014, 01:58:36 PM »
If a sneeze could transfer ebola, then the space suits make sense.
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Re: Something is "not right" about this Ebola stuff....
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2014, 03:41:43 PM »
If a sneeze could transfer ebola, then the space suits make sense.

If a sneeze can transmit Ebola, then I think it is a bit disingenuous
of the Govt to be telling the American People that Ebola is not spread
through the air.

I am not sure how "airborne" is defined medically speaking, but in my mind
most people would think catching something from a sneeze or cough would
be considered airborne.
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Re: Something is "not right" about this Ebola stuff....
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2014, 05:43:27 PM »
Blame the government, then. It is not like the CDC designed ebola.

I don't know how droplets from a sneeze remain airborne. Perhaps not long enough to merit the title of "officially airborne".
I think the suits are a good idea, in any case.

I don't see where it matters that the person who came into the country infected was a citizen or not. He did not know he was infected when he got on the plane.

The important thing is that they prevent anyone else from getting infected.
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Re: Something is "not right" about this Ebola stuff....
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2014, 09:40:58 PM »
IIRC, these patients are under what's called "Droplet Isolation", which means fluids can be a means of transference. 

Thank you SIRS...for the clarification.
So are you saying a sneeze or cough could transmit Ebola?

I suppose if you are are symptomatic, as in ill, and sneezed right into a person's eyeball, then yea, you could possibly transmit it.  Even less likely you could sneeze into an open wound


Since the point is to prevent any fluid contact to enter into your body via an
access fluid could, such as the eye, mouth, orifice, or any open wound

You mention eye, mouth....does it also include nose?
And what about an ear?

Nose perhaps, ear no
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Re: Something is "not right" about this Ebola stuff....
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2014, 12:14:18 AM »
    It has proven to be very hazardous to care for Ebola victims.

    The afflicted vomit and bleed and have diarrhea.

      Getting the body fluids on your space suit is not a big deal , and even having the virus contact intact skin is not particularly hazardous.

      But the contagion is not visible and can transfer from one surface to another , once some is on a persons hands it becomes likely to find its way into the mouth or eye.

       It is just the nature of mess , to spread.


http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/mythbusters-database/runny-nose-spread-germs.htm

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Re: Something is "not right" about this Ebola stuff....
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2014, 02:25:00 AM »
i think it`s not called airborne because since it`s done by droplets then the sneeze has to be close and direct, a sneeze from a few feet would probly not be as effective. I don`t recall any illness that can be contracted through the ear.

those hazmat suits are probly require incase the patent may go evil dead and try to bite them.

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Re: Something is "not right" about this Ebola stuff....
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2014, 09:50:35 AM »
I don`t recall any illness that can be contracted through the ear.

i think there is something called "swimmers ear", but that is obviously different.
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Re: Something is "not right" about this Ebola stuff....
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2014, 10:29:31 AM »
You get swimmers ear from water that gets into your ears if you are underwater. It is not contagious.
There is surely something you might get through the ear. Cats can get ear canker from other cats.

Feline hygiene is not nearly as good as most cats seem to think it is.
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