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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Plane on September 01, 2015, 08:13:23 PM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/02/us/politics/ben-carson-advancing-in-polls-is-a-sharp-contrast-to-donald-trump.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-0&action=click&contentCollection=Politics®ion=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=Blogs
In this article it is argued that Donald Trump has been a benefit to Dr. Carson, extra people tune in to see Trump being flamboyant , then get a dose of Carson charm also.
I guess I can see this potential, Trump and Carson are equally non-traditional but very different in manner.
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Notice also the "elephant" in the room......look who are the folks surging in the GOP polls.....the NON-politicians, Trump, Carson, and Fiornia. This is how so aliented the GOP has made its voting base....the ongoing pledges to reign in Government, the Democrats, and Obama, only to see them drop right back in line with the poltical estabishment, once they've been sworn in......outside of a few exceptions of course.
The polls demonstrate that the electorate is having a hard time swallowing what the professional Politicians keep promising, given their track record of dropping any effort, as soon as the 1st line of resistance is felt from the left or MSM. So, who better to throw their polling support behind than some folks who aren't professional politicians. I still think a Walker/Rubio ticket is the bees knees, but I completely understand the anger that's fuleing the polling successes of folks like Trump, Carson, & Fiorina
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Where are you going to go?
On the Democratic side , all of the candidates are experienced politicians with lots of clout inside the "beltway" .
The wide field on the Republican side has diluted the advantage of" establishment "approval .
Trump , has the wherewithal to dilute the establishment cash advantage.
Now, will people likely to vote for Clinton or Bush be given pause by the connectedness and the coin that the presidential family candidates bring?
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The nominee will be neither Carson nor Trump. Watch and see them fail.
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Watch and see who the people choose
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Carson is extremely bright.
I would love to see him President.
Like Reagan....Carson is a former Democrat that came to his senses.
However I would be shocked if he wins the long race.
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Carson has no tact. He likes to say stupid things to deliberately piss people off. So do Trump, Cruz and Fiorina. That is why none of them will ever be president.
Watch and see.
Poor Jeb's popularity is down to single digits.
I expect he will show us what bazillions can do at the right moment.
And we should not forget that Olebush is the former head of the CIA and knows LOTS of dirty tricks.
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Good gravy, it's like listening to a broken record of nothing but rap "music". Let me see if I have this straight.....ANY and EVERY Republican candiate is either a pompous jerk with no tact, purposely pisses people off, bought and paid for by the "oligarchy", and/or has no chance what-so-ever because........because xo says so. We just need to skip the whole process, and annoint Clinton, right?? Skip all this silly nominating process
Carson is about as opposite to Trump in demeanor and tact, as one can get, and you think they're cut from the same cloth?? Fiorina the same as Cruz?? :o Just another example of how blinded in ideology you are to current reality
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Carson says stupid crap in a quiet voice, but it is just a matter of style, not of substance. He picks fights when they do not need to be picked, he acts like he is some sort of wizard when he is clearly out of his league on foreign policy and many other issues. And beside that, the head honchos of the party know that they cannot get the big bucks from donors if he is the candidate.
There are no perfect candidates, but the Republican Party requires people to cater to the very rich to even be considered. Adheriong to the standards of the Republican Party is a serious defect. They are all poor choices, and none of them deserve to be elected.
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Examples would be nice of this supposed pikcing fights, that of course, no other politician does. Your say so simply holds no water
Not to mention our current community organizer and chief was not only a dunce in foreign policy before he took office, and many other issues, he continues to validate it, on a daily basis
So, when someone like Carson or Walker or Rubio or even Fiorina, gets the nomination, you can stick your GOP only caters to the rich garbage where the son doesn't shine, since to the hard core left, NO Republican would deserve to be elected
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And let's not ignore the grand master of catering to the rich....herr Clinton, and the Oligarchy that has bought and paid for her subservience, 10x over
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In my opinion, no Republican does deserve to be elected.
But just watch and see, Trump, Fiorina, Carson and Cruz are longshots for VICE president at best.
Reagan is not a "Democrat that came to his senses". Reagan was HIRED--paid money and a lot of it to deliver right wing speeches on behalf of General Electric after he had become persona non grata for ratting out the members of the Screen Actors Guild he was elected to lead. He could get no more roles, and GE had recently had some execs go to jail during the Eisenhower years for price fixing and collusion. Reagan was hired to deliver a speech written for him to Rotary and Lions Clubs and the like all over the West. Eventually he read the crap so many times he started to believe it.
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And let's not ignore the grand master of catering to the rich....herr Clinton, and the Oligarchy that has bought and paid for her subservience, 10x over
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You hate Clinton because millions have been spent on putting her down for the past 30 years.
I would be happier with her if she would come out against the big banks and the stupid Keystone pipeline. I was not impressed with her voting to give Juniorbush the power to invade Iraq, either. She lacks the charisma of husband Bill.
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I don't hate anyone. I despise dirty politics however, and those that relish in it, like Herr Clinton
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Then you should also hate Dick Cheney, Olebush and Juniorbush; thousands DIED because of their lies and trickery.
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Problem is you have no evidence or facts of any outright lies, that largely saturates a room, when the Clintons walk in. Your myopic anything & everything political say so, simply holds no water. Especially when it comes to overt hypocritical accusations
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You hate Clinton because millions have been spent on putting her down for the past 30 years.
Yes, it is the money spent that makes her seem corrupt (Beef futures) ruthless , cruel (Travel gate) and dishonest (running under fire in Bosnia).
But I don't know how that money made her do that stuff.
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Herr Clinton? That would be Bill.
Hillary would be Frau Clinton.
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Problem is you have no evidence or facts of any outright lies, that largely saturates a room, when the Clintons walk in. Your myopic anything & everything political say so, simply holds no water. Especially when it comes to overt hypocritical accusations
Didn't think so
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You do not think at all.
Your mind is untroubled by the thinking process.
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Yea, yea....same ol non answering repetative drool. Can't come up with any examples, so just insult. SOP. Give us a heads-'up when you plan on returning to the adults' table