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Re: Rude Student Tasered After Asking Kerry A Question
« Reply #90 on: September 22, 2007, 01:40:31 PM »
Of course they used excessive force. He was no threat to Kerry, only an embarrassment.

We have a right to question our elected officials about any damn thing we wish.




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 Watching the entire thing on uTube, I couldn't get the image of Kerry and Jane Fonda sitting in a crowd of protestors during the Viet Nam war......with a sort of similar "angry young person intent"...an severe intent to disagree with elected officials......an intent to make their ideals and passions known ....an intent in their eyes youthful and so very determined......oops they didn't stand up and ask a question in a controlled forum, so they weren't vulnerable to defeat in a crowd.  But would they have taken that same opportunity as this gent? I have a strong feeling......based on their strong willful intent....they just might have. They were silent protestors that day on the lawn. This guy voiced ....strike one for the voice.
What's happening to this country?

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Re: Rude Student Tasered After Asking Kerry A Question
« Reply #91 on: September 22, 2007, 05:43:30 PM »
The kid was not tasered for the question he asked.

I suspect what is wrong with this country is people see what they want to see.


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Re: Rude Student Tasered After Asking Kerry A Question
« Reply #92 on: September 22, 2007, 06:25:15 PM »
The kid was not tasered for the question he asked.  I suspect what is wrong with this country is people see what they want to see.

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Re: Rude Student Tasered After Asking Kerry A Question
« Reply #93 on: September 22, 2007, 10:34:04 PM »
Miami was under almost complete control by Democrats, no?

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No, seats on the city council are non-partisan.

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Re: Rude Student Tasered After Asking Kerry A Question
« Reply #94 on: September 22, 2007, 10:56:45 PM »
No, seats on the city council are non-partisan.

The city council is not in charge of the police. I'm talking about the executive branch - the mayor and those directly under him.

And even if the city council is "non-partisan," I'm sure the members have party affiliations.
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« Reply #95 on: September 22, 2007, 11:29:01 PM »
The kid was not tasered for the question he asked.

I suspect what is wrong with this country is people see what they want to see.



BT, EXPLAIN PLEASE?
What did you see?

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Re: Rude Student Tasered After Asking Kerry A Question
« Reply #96 on: September 22, 2007, 11:34:28 PM »
I saw the kid being tasered when he resisted arrest.

He resisted as  he was being escorted from the room. Elbows flailing.

He was escorted from the room because the Q&A had already ended when he insisted on asking his questions.


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Re: Rude Student Tasered After Asking Kerry A Question
« Reply #97 on: September 23, 2007, 10:45:38 AM »
He was escorted from the room because the Q&A had already ended when he insisted on asking his questions.

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Kerry said he would answer the question, therefore, the Q&A session was NOT over.

Plus, there was no reason for the police goons to remove him from the room. He was not inciting a riot.

Kerry was gutless not to tell said goons that the guy's question would be answered, and then answering it.
It Kerry had had any guts, he would not have allowed himself to be swiftboated.her he should have asked and reasked and reasked again how it was that Juniorbush
was able to avoid service in Vietnam, which he had previously claimed that he believed in and has not claimed that ended too soon, after over a friggin' decade.

He should have counterattacked Dickless Cheney for five deferments as well.

This WAS about free speech. By trying to remove him from the room, the goons were clearly trying to
limit his right to speak in public.

The goons should be fired, the charges against the guy should be dropped, and Kerry should be encouraged to answer the damn questions.
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Re: Rude Student Tasered After Asking Kerry A Question
« Reply #98 on: September 23, 2007, 11:08:39 AM »
This WAS about free speech. By trying to remove him from the room, the goons were clearly trying to
limit his right to speak in public.

How can a private Q&A session being "speaking in public"?
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Re: Rude Student Tasered After Asking Kerry A Question
« Reply #99 on: September 23, 2007, 12:58:08 PM »
I saw the kid being tasered when he resisted arrest.

He resisted as  he was being escorted from the room. Elbows flailing.

He was escorted from the room because the Q&A had already ended when he insisted on asking his questions.



BT,

I could hear Kerry in the background....he was willing to answer the student's question.

The tasering seemed to occur when he was already down. So, how did that help? How many officers does it take to pull down one flipped out mad boy? Those officers acted like power mongers in a rally in Berlin in mid 30's.

It was a strange thing to watch. Who struck first the voice or the taser...hmmmm.....thank God it wasn't Kent State all over again. Shame on Kerry for not taking that passion he once had for his own "war" issues and allowed the boy to stand up and speak.
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Re: Rude Student Tasered After Asking Kerry A Question
« Reply #100 on: September 23, 2007, 01:11:20 PM »
There seems to be a supposition that Kerry was in charge of the event.

I don't believe he was.

There also seems to be the supposition that the prankster was tasered for the content of his speech.

I don't believe he was.

The tasering occured when he was resisting arrest.

And the tasering was  probably a better option than a nightstick beating or a bullet.

This is not Kent State II. Saying it is equates the dissent of today with the dissent of that era. It is nowhere close. The antiwar movemnet of today is an embarrassment and sullies the memory of the antiwarriors of the 60's.



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Re: Rude Student Tasered After Asking Kerry A Question
« Reply #101 on: September 23, 2007, 01:45:45 PM »
The tasering seemed to occur when he was already down. So, how did that help?

Even though he was down, he was still resisting. You can hear one of the officers say something like "let me put these handcuffs on or I'll taser you." Said it several times before he hit the kid with the taser. So, the kid had an opportunity to avoid being tasered.
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Re: Rude Student Tasered After Asking Kerry A Question
« Reply #102 on: September 23, 2007, 02:58:02 PM »
Kerry may bot have been officially in charge, but I bet if he had told the cops to lay off the guy, they would have done so.

There was no reason to subdue this guy or to cuff him. I repeat, he posed no threat to anyone.

The cops had every opportunity to leave him the Hell alone.
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Re: Rude Student Tasered After Asking Kerry A Question
« Reply #103 on: September 23, 2007, 03:02:29 PM »
The cops had every opportunity to leave him the Hell alone.

Someone asked the cops to do what they did.

Just what I want when I call the cops for someone acting aggressively on my property - for them to tell me that they choose to "leave him the Hell alone."
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Re: Rude Student Tasered After Asking Kerry A Question
« Reply #104 on: September 23, 2007, 03:08:05 PM »
Someone asked the cops to do what they did.

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Who was that "someone"?


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Eichman said something about " Ve vas chust followink orders".

Goons are goons.

Kerry was a dweeb.
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