Disgraceful Planned Parenthood

[Plane]

Being as this is not going to stop abortions,.................

Why not?


This seems like a good reason to reduce abortions, on top of many others.

[Xavier_Onassis]

It will not stop abortions because they have been deemed legal by the Supreme Court in the Roe V. Wade decision.

But you had to know that.

Again, the issue is whether to use the fetal parts to help living people or throw them away and not help said people.
It is not about ending abortions. That has been decided.

[Plane]

It is not about ending abortions. That has been decided.

There is more than one way.

If everyone knew more about Abortion , perhaps the people vulnerable
 to the problem would work harder to avoid the need.

Also the Supreme court is wrong once and a while, and gets corrected .

What the Supreme Court thought it was doing when it decided against Dred Scott was fixing the problem, what it really did was compound the problem.

[kimba1]

I came to the conclusion that some prolife folks has made abortion possible due to thier stance against safe sex which leads to abortion.
Thiers been data that places that promote abstinence only policies has a fairly high pregnancy rate but those organizations refuse correlation by stating those kids did not follow abstinence polcy. Never prouching the subject thier policy did not exactly help by informing about alternatives to avoid pregnancy

[Xavier_Onassis]

The parents and grandparents of the same fools who rant about abortion this generation were trying their best to prevent contraceptives from being sold in the previous generation. Some of the ratbag right are STILL trying to prevent contraceptives being available.

The teen pregnancy rate is down, but no one would know it listening to the moronic ratbag right.

Women have a right to their own bodies that trumps the right of  fetuses.

The Supreme Court was entirely 100% right about  abortions, and that is not going to change.

[kimba1]

I read that those reality teen mom shows are the cause of the reduction of teen pregnancy.

[Xavier_Onassis]

This may be true. If so, that is a good thing.
Teenage girls should not get pregnant.

[Plane]

I read that those reality teen mom shows are the cause of the reduction of teen pregnancy.

Then knowing more about it , does help.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The main reasons why young women get pregnant, if it is deliberate is because they want to show that they are grown up and are independent, and because they are lonely.

I tend to think that many do not intentionally become pregnant they do not get a prescription for some birth control device because many see this as slutty behavior, and they do not want to feel slutty.

My students were high school graduates, and generally between the age of 18 and 24 when they had their first child. Every semester I had at least one that would show up in the first week or two of classes and vanish until final exam week, when they would appear in my office and ask what they needed to do to pass or get an incomplete grade. Unfortunately, I could neither pass them or give them an I. All of which I explained in the course syllabus.

[Plane]

  Young women are already moderately reluctant to get pregnant.

  Men need moderate behavior also, if young men were more aware and responsible the problem would shrink.

    I don't know how to get there from here , but having more facts about abortion become notorious ought to help.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The number of abortions has declined with the number of unwanted pregnancies.
But a woman still has the right to control her own body.

As for fetal tissue, I see using it as no more immoral than transplanting organs and tissue from the deceased. Because it is essentially the same thing, biologically.
What is immoral is profiteering on people's ill health and medical needs, and blood banks are by far the worst offenders.

[Plane]

  A woman should have a strong right to control her own body, what does this have to do with an abortion?

    An abortion is not supposed to kill the woman, it kills the baby.

      Killing people for their organs is indeed a lot like this, but the law frowns no killing adults for their organs , why do you suppose that is?

      Murder victims have perfectly good organs , doctors should be killing people for their organs enough to keep shortages from happening.

    And of course a doctor that does this work should get paid in proportion to the value of his victims organs.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The woman's right to not be a mother clearly  trumps any rights of the fetus to be a person. 

Profiteering on body parts is the real issue here.

This is not about abortions.

[Plane]

The woman's right to not be a mother clearly  trumps any rights of the fetus to be a person. 

I don't see this as "clearly ".

Living persons right to stay alive ought to be pretty strong.

[Xavier_Onassis]

In the case of an unborn fetus, not strong enough