Disgraceful Planned Parenthood

[Plane]

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It is not as though anyone will ever let me vote on the issue, anyway.

I think this really should happen.

Referendum is not more likely to produce an end to controversy than any other means , but at least the majority can have its way.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I do not think that a majority of people should have the right to decide what liberties will be denied a citizen.

Just as I did not favor the "defense of marriage" act.

[Plane]

  A tiny minority has decided that in no case is a "fetus" a person whose rights should be respected .

   It is Dred Scott all over again.

[sirs]

Sure seems that way

[Xavier_Onassis]

When fetuses get the vote, perhaps this will change.

I do not see this happening.

A majority of the American people favor abortions under some conditions, by the way.

But I don't see putting this to a vote as being the right way to go.

[Plane]

When fetuses get the vote, perhaps this will change.

I do not see this happening.

A majority of the American people favor abortions under some conditions, by the way.

But I don't see putting this to a vote as being the right way to go.

Why not?
Is it the right thing to submit questions like this to a randomly chosen group of nine judges?

[Xavier_Onassis]

I don't think the judges are "randomly selected", though some were poorly selected.

Again, this does not require any judges, it does not require a plebiscite, either.

Just the recognition that everyone, EVEN WOMEN , own their own bodies and that not government, nor masses of people, nor laws, should deny them this.

If you DID have a plebiscite, I would say let only the women decide, since this is only about women.

[Plane]

........... since this is only about women.

AND the children.

[Xavier_Onassis]

THERE ARE NO FUCKING CHILDREN!  They are not children, they are fetuses until they are born!

Jeez! 

You clowns do not think women have the same rights as men.  But they do.

[sirs]

Actually, that's not accurate either.  We clowns believe that the unborn children have the same rights as both men & women

[sirs]

[Xavier_Onassis]

There is not such thing as an unborn child.

That is why we use birthdays, not conception days as a point of reference for ourselves.

If men got pregnant, there would be NO WAY this would even be an issue.

[sirs]

There is not such thing as an unborn child.

That's exactly what he or she is.  I defy you to go up to ANY pregnant woman and tell her she's not carrying a child. 

And if man got pregnant, they wouldn't be man.....they'd be a woman

[Xavier_Onassis]

Not necessarily. Male seahorses actually give birth.

But depriving a woman of her right is simply misogyny.

(That means "woman hatred"), by the way.

[sirs]

We're talking humans professor. 

And depriving an unborn child their right to live is simply murder

That means murder, by the way