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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Brassmask on August 30, 2007, 11:06:00 AM
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You're a fucking moron and if I find out who it is, you are going to regret it for the rest of your life.
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/26/katulis-kagan/#comment-4038807
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Did you copyright it or something?
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I looked up you name
its used alot unless their all yours
in fact BT is in alot of places also
I just figured people like that name also
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/26/katulis-kagan/#comment-4038807
I did. Bite me!
They asked for an idiot, so I figured you fit the bill.
Totally joking of course. After all, I only scanned all of your recent posts to determine the most ill-fated attempt at a reasonable thinking person I could found and located you, the perfect fit. Actually, I have spent quite some time hours scanning ALL of your recent posts (not just Brassmark) to determine your positions on the issues and even though many of you are hopeleslly lost in liberal hell, I will assist others in correcting your deficient and very tiny mindsets. Do not be afriad, I will help SAVE you....
Seriously, Brassmark, your posts reflect a logic defined by the intelligence of a snail. It's okay; I will help you retain sanity...
Let's start the lesson: balance is spelled B - A - L - A - N - C - E. And tiny brain is spelled T - I - N - Y B - R - A - I - N. As in yours.
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Wow. That seemed entirely unnecessary.
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Thank you for your lesson in Psychology 101. Wanna send me a bill? Send it to
10 Downing Street
London, England
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They asked for an idiot, so I figured you fit the bill.
I would like to encourage our debates to center on issues and eschew ad homininim attacks and unwarranted insults.
Do you have any suggestions for this aim Mr Perceptive?
What most encourages debaters to engauge their talents in real debate?
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Ah, a poser, too.
Intriguing. You cannot address me without addressing the 54 times recently the Left has presented personal attacks, or, are you admiting to intellectual dishonesty and preference?
personal attacks are infinitum here; just following the established path, trod upon by many many others. When in Rome...
A devotee of Socrates, I see. I admire Socrates for his depth in analytical thinking and his excellent record in battle.
There is a time for Socrates and higher order thinking and there is a time for direct action. This is a time for the latter. I do perceive a rut in the road here--- I am charitably pulling people out of it.
As you undoubtedly know, Plato refers to Socrates as the nuisance of the State. I am here to fulfill this role, if need be. Stretching is required. The metaphorical poison of Socrates is the intellectual laziness of this board. I will attempt to engage this disease and apply corrective measures such as to present a DIFFERING and DIRECT view.
So, thank you for your cautious probing, but direct incision is needed, in my opinion and THAT is whom I listen to.
Onward into the fray...
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I don't consider the left to be my department , we have moderators on the left and their quality controll is their adequate to their aims , taking their available resource into account.
I don't see why the right shouldn't promote civility because we value civility . Having the civility returned might or might not happen afterwards , but you certainly cant expect civility to be returned before it has been given can you?
I am very flattered to be compared to Socrates , but I don't feel as though I am really in his league he is even if I attempt to emulate him in a smaller way. I think of Debate as a good idea for everyone and I would promote more knowledge about it to be more generally available , perhaps it can become more common as a means of hashing out problems and the society as a whole can benefit as more of us become more willing to use it , and better at using it.
SO I need to return to my question ,rephrased, what in your opinion, Mr Perceptive , is a good way for me to get what I want ?
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Plato refers to Socrates as the nuisance of the State. I am here to fulfil lthis role, if need be. Stretching is required. The metaphorical poison of Socrates is the intellectual laziness of this board. I will attempt to engage this disease and apply corrective measures such as to present a DIFFERING and DIRECT view.
That is good stuff , no one should be accepting of sloppy logic just because it is from the state or an august sorce , or even because it is supporting a favoriate cause.
We should all be demanding explanation and demand that explanation make sense.
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Is it Brassmask or Brassmark?
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I don't know but when you click on 'brassmask' it dumps you back here.
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I don't consider the left to be my department , we have moderators on the left and their quality controll is their adequate to their aims , taking their available resource into account.
I don't see why the right shouldn't promote civility because we value civility . Having the civility returned might or might not happen afterwards , but you certainly cant expect civility to be returned before it has been given can you?
I am very flattered to be compared to Socrates , but I don't feel as though I am really in his league he is even if I attempt to emulate him in a smaller way. I think of Debate as a good idea for everyone and I would promote more knowledge about it to be more generally available , perhaps it can become more common as a means of hashing out problems and the society as a whole can benefit as more of us become more willing to use it , and better at using it.
SO I need to return to my question ,rephrased, what in your opinion, Mr Perceptive , is a good way for me to get what I want ?
The problem exists that I could care less what YOU want. Not a personal attack, just honesty, a rare trait indeed.
The Professor, a colleague of mine, told me this would happen. I waited for it. Only took a few days, too. I guess I owe him a fiver. The bet was how long it would take. He saidi less than a week. I said one to two. The best was $5.00. Damn! This is the third bet I have lost to him in the past few months, too. He'll rag me to death about it , too! ha!
But since he is soon to be in Ethiopia, it'll have to wait. I won't be seeing him til he gets back anyway.
As far as preference in this forum, I conclude with: "Equity is a roguish thing." -- John Selden.
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The Professor, a colleague of mine, told me this would happen. I waited for it. Only took a few days, too. I guess I owe him a fiver.
Wasn't a week ago your colleague stated that he "should have known" when some poster disagreed with him.
Both seem to bespeak of being personally let down.
Comes off like . . . 'I knew, but I tried anyhow, then they let me down . . .'
Seems awfully victimy.
Think they will accept the shame and change their tune, to save your widdle feelings?
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The Professor, a colleague of mine, told me this would happen. I waited for it. Only took a few days, too. I guess I owe him a fiver.
Wasn't a week ago your colleague stated that he "should have known" when some poster disagreed with him.
Both seem to bespeak of being personally let down.
Comes off like . . . 'I knew, but I tried anyhow, then they let me down . . .'
Seems awfully victimy.
Think they will accept the shame and change their tune, to save your widdle feelings?
Take that crap up with The_Professor. He felt someone else, a conservative, got the shaft and he reacted accordingly. He has always been very concerned about such things. Upon reading back to that exchange in this forum, he was right, in my opinion. He won't be back for a while. I belive he has moved on to another forum he says is better balanced. It id apparent to a moron, no I didn't directly say YOU, that no justice or equity will ever be pursued by anyone here and so I doubt he will be back. His call.
As far as the issue he was perturbed about, preference was shown. Don't even bother to refute it, because if I cared about YOUR position on it, I would,,, well, just let it be known I could care less. Your postings, as do some others, are lightweight, so I'll give you the respect your opinion deserves -- zip.
However, I am sure that YOU as a person are a respectful and genuine example of the utmost admirable qualities of a homo sapien.
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The problem exists that I could care less what YOU want. Not a personal attack, just honesty, a rare trait indeed.
Oh. You're one of those.
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To which I reply:
To anger a conservative, lie to him.
To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.
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Which raises the obvious question, who then is angry?
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I like this one
a liberal is a conservative who got arrested
a conservative is a liberal who got robbed
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I don't know but when you click on 'brassmask' it dumps you back here.
The spy among R' us claiming to be Brass has Brass balls!
Why did the dude or dudette pick on our Brassie....why not UP, or BT, or MT or Prof. or JS.....PCSirs.....
or how about Plane....coulda been PlainO'.....
chuckle....is that still LOL or has that gone south too?
L but do it with a small stick!
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:D
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Who would name a Political board ThinkProgress without a space for a deep breath?
Think........exhale.......progress.
Seems to follow suit.......breath.......case.
Baggage to Bahgdad.
Crane to Plane
Perspective, are you a familiar Mr around here?
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familiar Mr??????
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Have you been in this saloon before, Mr. P?
You fit right in...if you haven't. Love your posts.
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Nope. The Professor recommended it.
I work with him.
You seem okay; why are YOU here? hahahahhahahahaha
I am here coverting the heathen. You?
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Nope. The Professor recommended it.
I work with him.
You seem okay; why are YOU here? hahahahhahahahaha
I am here coverting the heathen. You?
I am an old "newbie"...but I love to read, post and see what the Dead Horses have to say. They are all a bunch of good folks.
You fit right in.....and I am a fluffy visitor at best.
Been there done that 'round here for years.
Rockn' the boat is more fun than reading the run of da mill "stones".
Welcome.
ps....I don't know Professor.
Look forward to reading all.......
C*
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Good to see someone with a brain here.
Yep, rocking the boat IS fun...Kinda like a priest -- I"M WAKING THE DEAD!
hahahhahahahahahahha
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Good to see someone with a brain here.
Yep, rocking the boat IS fun...Kinda like a priest -- I"M WAKING THE DEAD!
hahahhahahahahahahha
Well, thank you. As far as a brain, there are plenty of people here who walk with that one!
I enjoy the read more than the post.
Keep "rockin". Just remember this RMS has only a few life boats! ha!
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I don't consider the left to be my department , we have moderators on the left and their quality controll is their adequate to their aims , taking their available resource into account.
I don't see why the right shouldn't promote civility because we value civility . Having the civility returned might or might not happen afterwards , but you certainly cant expect civility to be returned before it has been given can you?
I am very flattered to be compared to Socrates , but I don't feel as though I am really in his league he is even if I attempt to emulate him in a smaller way. I think of Debate as a good idea for everyone and I would promote more knowledge about it to be more generally available , perhaps it can become more common as a means of hashing out problems and the society as a whole can benefit as more of us become more willing to use it , and better at using it.
SO I need to return to my question ,rephrased, what in your opinion, Mr Perceptive , is a good way for me to get what I want ?
The problem exists that I could care less what YOU want. Not a personal attack, just honesty, a rare trait indeed.
The Professor, a colleague of mine, told me this would happen. I waited for it. Only took a few days, too. I guess I owe him a fiver. The bet was how long it would take. He saidi less than a week. I said one to two. The best was $5.00. Damn! This is the third bet I have lost to him in the past few months, too. He'll rag me to death about it , too! ha!
But since he is soon to be in Ethiopia, it'll have to wait. I won't be seeing him til he gets back anyway.
As far as preference in this forum, I conclude with: "Equity is a roguish thing." -- John Selden.
told me this would happen
What happened? What is "this"?
The problem exists that I could care less what YOU want.
You are not requited or compelled to care what I want , yet I will doubt that you deserve your handle if you are unable to answer such a question .
Is civility a bad idea ?
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"this would happen"
this refers ot atrmepts to shut me up. Which is essentially your play here. I informed the authorites I would wkat the dead. I am simply following that course of action.
Is civility a bad idea?
Good question.
It depends. I do not suffer fools gladly. Never have, never will. Being polite has its uses until it is confused with agreement.
I call 'em as I see 'em. Sometimes, unfortunately, it requires more direct language in an attmept to convert the heathen. To emphasize a point. To address a deficiency.
You are certainly free to not read my posts. I certainly will not be offended.
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"this would happen"
this refers ot atrmepts to shut me up. Which is essentially your play here. I informed the authorites I would wkat the dead. I am simply following that course of action.
Is civility a bad idea?
Good question.
It depends. I do not suffer fools gladly. Never have, never will. Being polite has its uses until it is confused with agreement.
I call 'em as I see 'em. Sometimes, unfortunately, it requires more direct language in an attmept to convert the heathen. To emphasize a point. To address a deficiency.
You are certainly free to not read my posts. I certainly will not be offended.
My thought, since Mr. Perceptive showed up in 3DHS last week, is that he is actually Professor trying out a Knute or Hoot-like approach to debate.
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Knute? Hoot?
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My thought, since Mr. Perceptive showed up in 3DHS last week, is that he is actually Professor trying out a Knute or Hoot-like approach to debate.
He is who he says he is.
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My thought, since Mr. Perceptive showed up in 3DHS last week, is that he is actually Professor trying out a Knute or Hoot-like approach to debate.
He is who he says he is.
OK.
My apologies, Mr. Perceptive, for thinking otherwise.
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Knute? Hoot?
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Knute? Hoot?
Hoot is an former member from some years back, a conservative. Knute is a current member, a liberal. Both are renowned for their abrasive style of debate.
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Thank you for the info and the implied compliment.
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been reading you a little and wonder how long you have been doing this internet debate thing?
The reality is that this form of communication is often more about our own mood when reading a post... our own bias when interpreting that post... and a platform of experience when trying to assemble the communication style of the people you are responding to.
From my perception of you and your communication style, you tend to jump bad as a preemptive form of debate.
Please do not presume that this an attack nor that I am a liberal.
"this would happen"
this refers ot atrmepts to shut me up. Which is essentially your play here. I informed the authorites I would wkat the dead. I am simply following that course of action.
Is civility a bad idea?
Good question.
It depends. I do not suffer fools gladly. Never have, never will. Being polite has its uses until it is confused with agreement.
I call 'em as I see 'em. Sometimes, unfortunately, it requires more direct language in an attmept to convert the heathen. To emphasize a point. To address a deficiency.
You are certainly free to not read my posts. I certainly will not be offended.
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"this would happen"
this refers ot atrmepts to shut me up. Which is essentially your play here. I informed the authorites I would wkat the dead. I am simply following that course of action.
Oh no !
Please do not shut up , someone who can compose cogent prose is an appreaciated asset and you could be just such a thing , being opinionated is just another plus . If you have the generosity required to submit your thinking to criticism then you will indeed enliven and deepen our discussion.
Please feel welcome here.
Is civility a bad idea?
Good question.
It depends. I do not suffer fools gladly. Never have, never will. Being polite has its uses until it is confused with agreement.
I call 'em as I see 'em. Sometimes, unfortunately, it requires more direct language in an attmept to convert the heathen. To emphasize a point. To address a deficiency.
You are certainly free to not read my posts. I certainly will not be offended.
As a moderator I have always been lax but I do feel the weight of responsibility even when I don't know what to do about it exactly.
Can we have a garden here without ever pulling any weeds?
If a weed is a noxious plant I suppose not , but if a weed is defined as a usefull plant whose use is not yet discovered ,the opposite action makes better sense ,discovering the virtues of the plant rather than rejecting it in ignorance.
I did not reject HOOT and I get a kick from Knute , I miss him embarassing the left whenever he is absent.
I want to encourage you to continue , but not to decide quite so early to be repellant to half the membership ,I imagine you will discover the value of a good opponent here or if not ,at least the value of a good foil.
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been reading you a little and wonder how long you have been doing this internet debate thing?
The reality is that this form of communication is often more about our own mood when reading a post... our own bias when interpreting that post... and a platform of experience when trying to assemble the communication style of the people you are responding to.
From my perception of you and your communication style, you tend to jump bad as a preemptive form of debate.
Please do not presume that this an attack nor that I am a liberal.
"this would happen"
this refers ot atrmepts to shut me up. Which is essentially your play here. I informed the authorites I would wkat the dead. I am simply following that course of action.
Is civility a bad idea?
Good question.
It depends. I do not suffer fools gladly. Never have, never will. Being polite has its uses until it is confused with agreement.
I call 'em as I see 'em. Sometimes, unfortunately, it requires more direct language in an attmept to convert the heathen. To emphasize a point. To address a deficiency.
You are certainly free to not read my posts. I certainly will not be offended.
The cat that taught me more than half of what I know about this game is preset .
I defer in humility , to the real talent
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"this would happen"
this refers ot atrmepts to shut me up. Which is essentially your play here. I informed the authorites I would wkat the dead. I am simply following that course of action.
Oh no !
Please do not shut up , someone who can compose cogent prose is an appreaciated asset and you could be just such a thing , being opinionated is just another plus . If you have the generosity required to submit your thinking to criticism then you will indeed enliven and deepen our discussion.
Please feel welcome here.
Is civility a bad idea?
Good question.
It depends. I do not suffer fools gladly. Never have, never will. Being polite has its uses until it is confused with agreement.
I call 'em as I see 'em. Sometimes, unfortunately, it requires more direct language in an attmept to convert the heathen. To emphasize a point. To address a deficiency.
You are certainly free to not read my posts. I certainly will not be offended.
As a moderator I have always been lax but I do feel the weight of responsibility even when I don't know what to do about it exactly.
Can we have a garden here without ever pulling any weeds?
If a weed is a noxious plant I suppose not , but if a weed is defined as a usefull plant whose use is not yet discovered ,the opposite action makes better sense ,discovering the virtues of the plant rather than rejecting it in ignorance.
I did not reject HOOT and I get a kick from Knute , I miss him embarassing the left whenever he is absent.
I want to encourage you to continue , but not to decide quite so early to be repellant to half the membership ,I imagine you will discover the value of a good opponent here or if not ,at least the value of a good foil.
I hope you avoid censorship.
Truth to me is that calling someone on their frankness is simply pushing politically correct buttons.
Is refusing to be politically correct reason for even comment?
Debate seems to have an inevitable effect on rigidity, given the trickle trickles long enough.
This fellow sounds very military. In the military, he would sound very military, and most of the guys he serves with have probably nicknamed him 'Souza.'
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Actually, my nickname was "Big Round Top".
Unfortunately, I have been follicle-deficient since age 24.
If my "abrasive" approach creates censure, I can always cease-n-desist my attempts at waking the dead and do it in other graveyards.
There are, alas, plenty of these. Graveyards abound.
I can have fun in many locales.
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Actually, my nickname was "Big Round Top".
Unfortunately, I have been follicle-deficient since age 24.
If my "abrasive" approach creates censure, I can always cease-n-desist my attempts at waking the dead and do it in other graveyards.
There are, alas, plenty of these. Graveyards abound.
I can have fun in many locales.
And that's why I love to read a refreshing newbie such as yourself.
God, I hope you're not KNUTE....or Toot Or Throot or t'knoootie.....
You are ripe for this dead horse section of beats...not dead...but alive and well.
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Actually, my nickname was "Big Round Top".
Unfortunately, I have been follicle-deficient since age 24.
If my "abrasive" approach creates censure, I can always cease-n-desist my attempts at waking the dead and do it in other graveyards.
There are, alas, plenty of these. Graveyards abound.
I can have fun in many locales.
I don't understand why you're such a piece of shit that feels compelled to use someone else's handle.
To be quite honest, I have spent a lot of time on the net here and in other forums using this same name for literally YEARS. I'd be willing to chalk it up to naivete and sheet stupidity if you'll just cease and desist.
I'm still not convinced that you are some newbie who just happens to have chosen my name out of a hat and started using it for no reason. I'm still pretty sure that you are one of the neanderthalic morons who posts here and is just out to fuck with me.
Either way, I'd appreciate it if would end now.
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Idiot. I have not been using your name or handle or whatever you call it. I've seen recruits smarter than you and I've seen some real momma boys. "Please don't cut my hair. My momma said I could ask you" or "I just can't lay there. It's got ants" or "If I shoot my rounds off early, can I go eat early, too?"
I don't even know who you are other than perhaps some neuron-deficient moron.
Quick to take the bait, huh?
This COULD be fun!
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Actually, my nickname was "Big Round Top".
Unfortunately, I have been follicle-deficient since age 24.
If my "abrasive" approach creates censure, I can always cease-n-desist my attempts at waking the dead and do it in other graveyards.
There are, alas, plenty of these. Graveyards abound.
I can have fun in many locales.
The best rule to use is the Golden Rule and use the sort of tactic yourself that you don't mind an opponent useing.
Perception of errr is usually mutual , as much as you do indeed have a right to confrount the error you perceive, those in whom you perceive the error have the right to return the favor.
Is the problem with civility boredom? Does a conversation that isn't spiced with invective seem too bland?
I think of invective as cheap bcause I think of Proofs and logic as more valuable .
Proofs require research , logic requires mental effort , what goes into invective that makes it valuabe?
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Feldercarb -- nicely coated, though.
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Feldercarb -- nicely coated, though.
Is this as perceptive as you get?
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Feldercarb -- nicely coated, though.
Is this as perceptive as you get?
Sometimes. Depends upon the issue and my desire. Feel free to read others posts if I bore you. It is perfectly acceptable. After all, no one can read ALL of the posts here, I suppose.
I LIKE my style. It is ME and I am happy with ME.
You are attempting to chastise someone who cannot be unless they choose to. I choose to not be chastised.