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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: R.R. on December 01, 2011, 12:01:03 PM
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Rasmussen's latest poll.
Bye bye Obama.
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Rasmussen is the polling group that always favors Republicans.
The Newtster has a huge amount of negatives about him. He was rejected by his own party.
Do you really think that he did over a million dollars worth of history for Freddie Mac?
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His company was paid 1.5 million over a period of years. The CEO's of both Fannie and Freddie both received bonuses in excess of 5.5 million for 1 year at the height of the meltdown.
Perspective.
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*cue the impending litany of Newt namecalling, by Xo*
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I think the whole Fannie/Freddie schtick concerning Newt was that he was a lobbyist for them, but if you think about it a community organizer is a lobbyist also. They just call themselves advocates. So I don't really see the big deal. Unless it is about how much each was paid, and then one has to wonder why Obama was paid so little. If pay is based on worth to the payer.
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I say that paying Newt all that money for being a "historian" was a dreadful waste of money. Perspective has nothing to do with it.
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All opinion aside, I'm guessing there are alot of Professors that were and are a "dreadful waste of money"
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XO are you in favor of wage and price controls?
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I don't see any need for wage or price controls now.
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So you don't see a problem with employers and employees negotiating fair compensation?
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They don't do that now in most places. The employer simply says "I will pay you $x, take it or leave it". It is not collective bargaining: the employee has only the opposition of begging for more or quitting.
That is not negotiation, as I see it.
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Doesn't that depend on who is doing the seeking? If the employer seeks you, then you have the upper hand in the negotiation. If you are just seeking a job, then the employer will probably just offer the going rate.
Most of us in here don't need collective bargaining, that just creates another middle man with his hands in your wallet. But like AMI pointed out in another thread it doesn't hurt to know what the market rate is for your position, when you get to the point in the hiring process of discussing salary.
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That seems like a lot of pay for a little advice.
But not as fantastic as discarding the advice once paid so much for.
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Rasmussen is the polling group that always favors Republicans.
The polling has been accurate to 1%.
Newt now leads Obama. Flush the turd.
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That seems like a lot of pay for a little advice.
But not as fantastic as discarding the advice once paid so much for.
Considering that Fannie paid close to $200mil in consulting fees Newt's charges don't seem so high.
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Did the advice get heeded and followed?
Did the advisors offer no bond or garuntee for quality of advice?
Fannie Mae was flown into terrain the pilot and navigator ought to be explaining their choices, including hte high priced advice.
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That seems like a lot of pay for a little advice.
But not as fantastic as discarding the advice once paid so much for.
Considering that Fannie paid close to $200mil in consulting fees Newt's charges don't seem so high.
Isn't that $200mil in tax dollars?
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Isn't that $200mil in tax dollars?
Not necessarily. If it was post bailout maybe, pre bailout maybe not.
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Did the advice get heeded and followed?
Did the advisors offer no bond or garuntee for quality of advice?
Fannie Mae was flown into terrain the pilot and navigator ought to be explaining their choices, including hte high priced advice.
I think consultants are in the same league as lawyers. Results are not guaranteed.
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Isn't that $200mil in tax dollars?
Not necessarily. If it was post bailout maybe, pre bailout maybe not.
??? How is Fannie & Freddie paid for? It should be it either is or isn't paid for by tax dollars. If its a Federal program/agency, by definition its supported with tax dollars. Are you saying its not a Federal agency?
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Rasmussen does not prove that Obama is a turd or that Newt is not a turd.
The election will take place in November of 2012. Many things, especially, but not limited to, third and fourth party candidates could happen between now and then. Newt has not received the GOP nomination, and this may never happen.
People hate Gingrich because he is a smartass. The more he opens his mouth, the more they hate him.
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People hate Gingrich because he is a smartass.
Was Clinton a smartass? How about Gore?
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Isn't that $200mil in tax dollars?
Not necessarily. If it was post bailout maybe, pre bailout maybe not.
??? How is Fannie & Freddie paid for? It should be it either is or isn't paid for by tax dollars. If its a Federal program/agency, by definition its supported with tax dollars. Are you saying its not a Federal agency?
Prior to the bailout it was a government sponsored enterprise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government-sponsored_enterprise#Ownership_and_implicit_guarantee) i'm not sure what its status is under receivership.
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So if its Government sponsored, is that not supported with tax dollars? If not, what else would be paying Fannie & Freddie?
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Did you read the link? A government sponsored enterprise means it has a charter from the government to provide a product or service. It is/was privately owned. Just like the Federal Reserve.
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By whom? It's that old saying....follow the money
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by whom? by its shareholders. Its publicly traded
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Hey, what happened to President Cain?
As Barney Frank said, this couldn't be, I haven't lived a good enough life to have Newt as the Republican nominee.
Obama has probably proved himself unworthy of a second term, but geezus, this is the best the right can do? Newt "I'm a celebrity" Gingrich? Mitt "who can I please today" Romney?
BSB
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It's a shame Cain has to deal with these Chicago distractions. The Obama folks obviously are scared shitless of black conservatives. But it ain't over til it's over. And yeah Newt's all cocky now, he doesn't wear it well.
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Pride comes before a fall, and Newt always falls, often via a breakdown, often in spectacular, albeit embarrassing to watch, fashion.
BSB
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It is like everyone is waiting for all the details to come out on Cain's affairs, but this is unlikely. There were no crimes committed, there are no lawsuits, there won't be a trial. Maybe, if the interest continues, someone will write a book, or several books. If Cain does not simply drop out, then his fate will be decided in the primaries, which I doubt that he'll win. Blaming the Democrats for Cain's downfall is silly. If they wanted to do the bugger in, they would wait until he got the nomination, THEN trot out all his old lovers.
Cain is his own worst enemy. He brought this on himself.
I don't think that the publicity will harm his "motivational speaker" business.
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This has Rahm Emanual and Axelrod's fingerprints all over it.
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Why would the even bother?
Cain has had this affair for thirteen years. Are you suggesting that Axelrod and Emmanuel have a wayback machine?
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Blaming the Democrats for Cain's downfall is silly. If they wanted to do the bugger in, they would wait until he got the nomination, THEN trot out all his old lovers.
Interesting point, so you think this was organised by one of his Republican opponents?
That would be something.
Which one I wonder?
Tricky Mitt? Wascally Perry? bombastic Bachman? Pedantic Paul?
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I am inclined to think that the women complaining about Cain were motivated by seeing Cain strut about like he was the only honest man in the race. I don't think his opponents had a thing to do with it.
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The common link is that all these transgressions allegedly happened during his time at the NRA.
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He was not with the NRA for 13 years, was he? That is the alleged duration of his affair with Ginger White.
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He met Ginger White when he was with the NRA.
All you really have is that he has texted her and helped her out of financial jams.
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She does have a face like a wounded puppy.
Or perhaps a needy pussy.
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No good deed goes unrewarded.
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No good deed goes unrewarded.
No good deed goes unpunished.
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gracias