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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Plane on December 10, 2006, 09:43:16 AM

Title: We're number one!
Post by: Plane on December 10, 2006, 09:43:16 AM
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/us-imprisons-more-people-than-any-other/20061209111509990004


No one elese even close.


I kinda wish it were not so .

This is a good arguement for reforming sentenceing guidelines and reduceing the number of Drugs on the forbidden list.
Title: Re: We're number one!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 10, 2006, 10:19:20 AM
Prisons are a big business in the US.

Running prisons is a way of taking money out of the taxpayers' pockets and paying it to contractors: those who run private prisons, and even more to those who supply prisons with construction materials, monitoring devices, uniforms and such.

Imagine all the jobs that would be lost if we actually reformed our criminals instead of locking them up for courses in postgraduate crime. The jobs would be out of work, and we'd have to find jobs for the reformed criminals as well.

Title: Re: We're number one!
Post by: Plane on December 10, 2006, 10:30:15 AM
Prisons are a big business in the US.

Running prisons is a way of taking money out of the taxpayers' pockets and paying it to contractors: those who run private prisons, and even more to those who supply prisons with construction materials, monitoring devices, uniforms and such.

Imagine all the jobs that would be lost if we actually reformed our criminals instead of locking them up for courses in postgraduate crime. The jobs would be out of work, and we'd have to find jobs for the reformed criminals as well.




If the influx of Mexicans were halved , for a few months , the shortfall would disapear.

Also remember each employment produces employment.
Title: Re: We're number one!
Post by: Mucho on December 10, 2006, 01:21:12 PM
>>>If the influx of Mexicans were halved , for a few months , the shortfall would disappear<<<

Source? And besides a great number of lawns would die and restaurants close and produce prices skyrocket.

http://www.adaywithoutamexican.com/dos.html

Title: Re: We're number one!
Post by: Amianthus on December 10, 2006, 01:26:43 PM
And besides a great number of lawns would die and restaurants close and produce prices skyrocket.

Source?
Title: Re: We're number one!
Post by: Plane on December 10, 2006, 11:28:39 PM
How can we afford to lock up such a lage portion of our workforce?

In every other land on Earth this foolishness would fail , but we can afford to hire an  illeagal laborer to cover the loss of a pot smoker.

Title: Re: We're number one!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 10, 2006, 11:57:15 PM
How can we afford to lock up such a lage portion of our workforce?

In every other land on Earth this foolishness would fail , but we can afford to hire an  illeagal laborer to cover the loss of a pot smoker.
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The need is to have an abundant supply of cheap labor. One way is to import workers, even illegal workers, from elsewhere. Another way would be to lock up lots of citizens on relatively unimportant drug charges (such as marijuana). If the jobs become too plentiful, the state can release the prisoners early.

Prison guards don't have to be as well-trained as city police. Most states locate their prisons in rural areas where there are lots of unemployed workers, usually men. Some of the unemployed men will turn to drugs, and others can be trained cheaply as prison guards to guard them in the Big House.

Although we DO lock up a huge number of potsmoking potentially productive citizens, it is debatable whether we can "afford" it, because there are better ways of dealing with drug use.

Ignoring personal production and use of pot would be one way.