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A Leftist Islamic Paradise?
« on: August 31, 2007, 12:47:21 PM »
A Leftist Islamic Paradise?
by Robert Spencer (more by this author)
Posted 08/21/2007 ET


Abdullah Al-Muhajir, a.k.a. Jose Padilla, was convicted Thursday of supporting terrorist activity and, said Associated Press, ?conspiracy to murder, kidnap and maim people overseas.? At the Leftist website Daily Kos, Padilla was hailed as an ?American Martyr to ?War on Terror,?? and his trial was compared to the witch hysteria: ?As was the case during the witch trials of yesteryear, only the socially unpopular, the mentally ill, and the politically dangerous end up at the end of a noose or in yet another bonfire of political vanity.? The barely literate posting went on to complain that the case against Padilla ?hinged on one piece of papar [sic]: an application with his fingerprints.? No mention of the fact that this ?one piece of papar? happened to be an Al-Qaeda application.

The Kos entry was an example of the Left?s tendency to see defensive efforts against the global jihad as manifestations of an encroaching Bush police state. Michael Moore said it a few years ago: ?There is no terror threat in this country. This is a lie. It?s the biggest lie we have been told.? This has become conventional wisdom on the Left, coalescing neatly with a solicitude toward Islamic jihadists: one notorious example was radical feminist lawyer Lynne Stewart who became a water-carrier for Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, now in prison for his role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. The activities of various members of the ?nonviolent? International Solidarity Movement have given rise to numerous questions about its ties to violent jihadists.

So what kind of a world will it be for Leftists who turn a blind eye to the jihad, if the jihadists achieve their objectives? Writing in the entertainment paper TimeOut London in June, TimeOut editor at large Michael Hodges imagined that London under Sharia law, Hodges wrote, would be healthier: ?the Muslim act of prayer is designed to keep worshippers fit, their joints supple and, at five times a day, their stomachs trim.? It would be sober: ?Forbid alcohol throughout the country, and you?d avoid many of the 22,000 alcohol-related deaths and the ?7.3 billion national bill for alcohol-related crime and disorder each year.? Islamic education would raise ?general levels of discipline and self-respect among London?s young people.? Religious bigotry would disappear as Jews, Christians, and -- probably -- Hindus became protected dhimmis under the benevolent rule of Islamic law.

Unfortunately for future dhimmis, however, and for like-minded liberals, Hodges left a few things out of his Islamic Leftist paradise. He didn?t mention that in exchange for the ?protection? they would receive from their new Islamic overlords, religious minorities would have to accept a humiliating second-class status that institutionalized their humiliation and denied them equality of rights with Muslims in numerous ways -- ensuring that they ?feel themselves subdued? (Qur?an 9:29). Nor would life be any more comfortable for trendy liberal atheists.

An Islamized country in the West, meanwhile, would be filled with liberal bugaboos: prayer in schools; illegal abortion (except, most likely, in cases involving the life of the mother); punishments (varyingly draconian) for homosexuals; and even legalized polygamy (Qur?an 4:3) and wife-beating (Qur?an 4:34). Freedom of speech would also probably disappear, at least where discussion of the elements of Islam that incite to violence are concerned -- but given their propensity to smear rather than answer their opponents, Leftists probably wouldn?t miss it much.


Nonetheless, there is no doubt that a world in which Jose Padilla?s activities continued unhindered, and the jihadists finally succeeded in imposing their will on the rest of us, would hardly be comfortable for liberals. So why do liberals so reflexively take the side of the jihadists? Evidently they believe that there is no real challenge to the West from the Islamic world, and that Christianity (as I detail in my new book Religion of Peace?) represents the real theocracy threat to Western pluralism and non-sectarian government. The multiculturalist anti-Americanism from which this delusion springs may be more lethal to the American Republic in the short run than the jihad itself; but in the long run, the two threats coalesce quite easily.

Mr. Spencer is director of Jihad Watch and author of "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades)" and "The Truth About Muhammad" (both from Regnery -- a HUMAN EVENTS sister company).

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Re: A Leftist Islamic Paradise?
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2007, 02:05:46 PM »
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prayer in schools; illegal abortion (except, most likely, in cases involving the life of the mother); punishments (varyingly draconian) for homosexuals; and even legalized polygamy (Qur?an 4:3) and wife-beating (Qur?an 4:34). Freedom of speech would also probably disappear, at least where discussion of the elements of Islam that incite to violence are concerned -- but given their propensity to smear rather than answer their opponents

So when can we expect you to move to this right wing garden of Eden, Rich?
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Re: A Leftist Islamic Paradise?
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2007, 02:19:17 PM »
Funny, as soon as I saw the desire to abolish freedom of speech, along with smearing opponents, I immediately thought must be some Leftist Utopia.  Go figure            ;)
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: A Leftist Islamic Paradise?
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2007, 02:20:54 PM »
>>So when can we expect you to move to this right wing garden of Eden, Rich?<<

And there you have it. The template again. This is why I plan to vote for Democrats in '08. I want this to happen. I look forward to the weekly be-headings once the Leftist Islamic Paradise comes to pass. Here's hoping you're first in line JS.

 ;)

p.s. This is a PERFECT example of the article I posted earlier, "The Paranoid Style of the American Left."

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Re: A Leftist Islamic Paradise?
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2007, 02:21:30 PM »
Funny, as soon as I saw the desire to abolish freedom of speech, along with smearing opponents, I immediately thought must be some Leftist Utopia.  Go figure            ;)

Yep, you were wrong...what were the odds?

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Re: A Leftist Islamic Paradise?
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2007, 02:24:03 PM »
>>So when can we expect you to move to this right wing garden of Eden, Rich?<<

And there you have it. The template again. This is why I plan to vote for Democrats in '08. I want this to happen. I look forward to the weekly be-headings once the Leftist Islamic Paradise comes to pass. Here's hoping you're first in line JS.

 ;)

p.s. This is a PERFECT example of the article I posted earlier, "The Paranoid Style of the American Left."

Wait a minute...

You are accusing others of being paranoid, yet you expect an Islamic Leftist Paradise to come to fruition along with weekly be-headings?



OK...

Who's been playing with Rich's medication?
I smell something burning, hope it's just my brains.
They're only dropping peppermints and daisy-chains
   So stuff my nose with garlic
   Coat my eyes with butter
   Fill my ears with silver
   Stick my legs in plaster
   Tell me lies about Vietnam.

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Re: A Leftist Islamic Paradise?
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2007, 02:36:44 PM »
Hilarious, really.

Perhaps you should speak with someone regarding your obviously disconnect from reality. All the signs are there.

Let me help you just a bit. There are millions of people out there who want you dead. That's a fact, not paranoia. If you deny that, you really are either incredibly dumb, or as the article suggests, delusional and paranoid. Now, if people like you gain power you'll do your best to attack Christians for all the evil they do in the world, and the real enemy will be more than willing to do away with you while you live in this alternative reality. Thankfully there are people who do realize the danger.

So yes, if it happens, I'll enjoy watching them drag you in front of the camera.

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Re: A Leftist Islamic Paradise?
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2007, 02:46:52 PM »
Let me help you just a bit. There are millions of people out there who want you dead. That's a fact, not paranoia. If you deny that, you really are either incredibly dumb, or as the article suggests, delusional and paranoid. Now, if people like you gain power you'll do your best to attack Christians for all the evil they do in the world, and the real enemy will be more than willing to do away with you while you live in this alternative reality. Thankfully there are people who do realize the danger.

So yes, if it happens, I'll enjoy watching them drag you in front of the camera.

Time for your lesson in reality.

1. I'm a Christian as well.

2. There are many, many, many more serious problems in terms of lethality than international terrorism. In fact, it ranks behind workplace accidents.

3. You have no idea what Muslims believe and who the "real enemy" is.

4. You have repeatedly shown an attitude that belies any real knowledge of the teachings of Christ and the Gospels.

as evidence I present:
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I'll enjoy watching them drag you in front of the camera
I smell something burning, hope it's just my brains.
They're only dropping peppermints and daisy-chains
   So stuff my nose with garlic
   Coat my eyes with butter
   Fill my ears with silver
   Stick my legs in plaster
   Tell me lies about Vietnam.

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Re: A Leftist Islamic Paradise?
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2007, 02:54:50 PM »
    The Corruption and dissolution and depravity of the West is actual , and it serves as an excuise or a motivator to Jhiad.


     Islam still has a lot less money than Christiandom , include the secular hangers on to Christiandom and the comparison is even worse , but they have been catching up for five decades , and the wealthyer they become the more they have the means to cause disruption.

     I have never been to NYC and it is a long way from where I live,burning down the Downtown Manhattan area really didn't affect my life directly , and it did not change the odds of my dieing violently by a full percentage point , so why did I find it so irritateing?

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Re: A Leftist Islamic Paradise?
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2007, 03:10:39 PM »
If I thought for a second you had a grip on reality, I might listen.

However, you seem to believe accidents in the worlk place is somehow comparable to Hamas, Iran, and the glbal war on terror.

If anyone is in need of medication, it's you.
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Re: A Leftist Islamic Paradise?
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2007, 03:20:20 PM »
So enlighten me on what is going on right now with Iran and Hamas, Rich.
I smell something burning, hope it's just my brains.
They're only dropping peppermints and daisy-chains
   So stuff my nose with garlic
   Coat my eyes with butter
   Fill my ears with silver
   Stick my legs in plaster
   Tell me lies about Vietnam.