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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Brassmask on October 28, 2008, 04:42:39 PM
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You really have no idea how stressed out and cantankerous and irritable I am every day, all day due to the election.
Personally, I can't wait till next Wednesday when we can go back to the low-level disdain.
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You really have no idea how stressed out and cantankerous and irritable I am every day, all day due to the election.
You shouldn't take it so personally.
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You really have no idea how stressed out and cantankerous and irritable I am every day, all day due to the election.
You shouldn't take it so personally.
Oh, that's some amazing advice.
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You really have no idea how stressed out and cantankerous and irritable I am every day, all day due to the election.
Personally, I can't wait till next Wednesday when we can go back to the low-level disdain.
I can't wait either...but then the disdain will only turn inward.....xxxing fingers that does NOT happen.
WE are the people, Brassie.....don't stress too much. THe individual can still make his/her mark. You have your passions and they aren't being heard. There are many of us in that boat....with different ship captains.
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Brass, you're part of a great movement for change. Be as cantankerous, stressed out and irritable as you like, but never mind that, just WIN THIS FUCKING THING. You're fighting against four more years of continuous disaster, four more years of racism and bigotry, four more years of war and fascism and slaughter. I'm only sorry I can't join in that fight. What an inestimable privilege that would be! You and thousands of guys like you can turn all this around, bring in a new day. You're all gonna be heroes.
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Brass....we've lived through eight years of Bush rule.
We have 84 days left. We will all work hard, do our best, and hope for the best.
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You really have no idea how stressed out and cantankerous and irritable I am every day, all day due to the election.
Personally, I can't wait till next Wednesday when we can go back to the low-level disdain.
It's only castles burning.
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You really have no idea how stressed out and cantankerous and irritable I am every day, all day due to the election.
Personally, I can't wait till next Wednesday when we can go back to the low-level disdain.
Sheeeeesh!
And this while your favoriate is leading in the race!
McCain is my favoriate , and he is behind by five to seven today.
I wonder if Biden or Obama can make an enourmous faux pas and hand us the three to five points we need?
Where that is a Biden there is still hope.
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You really have no idea how stressed out and cantankerous and irritable I am every day, all day due to the election.
Personally, I can't wait till next Wednesday when we can go back to the low-level disdain.
Sheeeeesh!
And this while your favoriate is leading in the race!
McCain is my favoriate , and he is behind by five to seven today.
I wonder if Biden or Obama can make an enourmous faux pas and hand us the three to five points we need?
Where that is a Biden there is still hope.
After two elections where it seemed that no one in their right minds would vote for Bush, I have no problem with feeling trepidation about the election.
Sure, it appears that Obama is leading by a goodly portion but I fear something will get "pulled" or the polls will have been "wrong" and it will all be pulled out from under us.
It's terrifying at times.
I just wish this week was over already.
I took off election day and the day after to recoup. Gonna take the boy to vote with me and just celebrate it.
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so basically then, if McCain wins at this point, then "obviously", it was a "stolen election". Is that that the jist?
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<<so basically then, if McCain wins at this point, then "obviously", it was a "stolen election". Is that that the jist?>>
No, just an amazing coincidence that the State of Florida still can't get it right, that for example the advance polls yesterday had folks lined up for over three hours to vote and they're expecting total chaos on Election Day. But that has nothing to do with sabotaging the black vote, it's just bad luck. Why should a Florida State official have any reason to anticipate anything getting screwed up at the polls?
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<<so basically then, if McCain wins at this point, then "obviously", it was a "stolen election". Is that that the jist?>>
No, just an amazing coincidence that the State of Florida still can't get it right, that for example the advance polls yesterday had folks lined up for over three hours to vote and they're expecting total chaos on Election Day. But that has nothing to do with sabotaging the black vote, it's just bad luck. Why should a Florida State official have any reason to anticipate anything getting screwed up at the polls?
That has nothing to do with sabotaging the black vote , a much talked about impossibility.
These suffering masses of repressed voters never showed up in person to complain anywhere.
There is almost two weeks of polling access in Fl. how are you going to alledge "repression" this time?
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so basically then, if McCain wins at this point, then "obviously", it was a "stolen election". Is that that the jist?
As I've stated before, if we go into Election Day with Obama 10 points ahead in polls in most of the states and then loses, what else should we think?
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so basically then, if McCain wins at this point, then "obviously", it was a "stolen election". Is that that the jist?
As I've stated before, if we go into Election Day with Obama 10 points ahead in polls in most of the states and then loses, what else should we think?
That conservatives do not like pollsters.
Curmudgeons are highly undercounted.
I am a Curmudgeon and I vote.
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<<That has nothing to do with sabotaging the black vote , a much talked about impossibility.>>
Not only been done, but done repeatedly.
<<These suffering masses of repressed voters never showed up in person to complain anywhere.>>
They saw teh futility. The Supreme Court had already awarded the election to Bush.
<<There is almost two weeks of polling access in Fl. how are you going to alledge "repression" this time?>>
I just showed you how. Make 'em all wait three hours or more even in an advance poll. More on the actual day. Pull out the state police to pull over black drivers for a "fake documents" search, coincidentally scheduled only for Election Day and coincidentally applied mainly to blacks. Purge the rolls of "felons" but make sure that - - by coincidence of course - - the "errors" in purging non-felons somehow apply mostly to blacks. It's been done before, plane. There's a playbook.
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In Florida:
Effective immediately, early voting sites will be open from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m., through Friday, October 31, 2008, and for a total of 12 hours between 7:00 a.m. on Saturday, November 1, and 7:00 p.m. on Sunday, November 2, 2008.
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20081028/BREAKING/810280253/2055/NEWS?Title=Crist_extends_early_voting_hours (http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20081028/BREAKING/810280253/2055/NEWS?Title=Crist_extends_early_voting_hours)
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<<That has nothing to do with sabotaging the black vote , a much talked about impossibility.>>
Not only been done, but done repeatedly.
<<These suffering masses of repressed voters never showed up in person to complain anywhere.>>
They saw teh futility. The Supreme Court had already awarded the election to Bush.
<<There is almost two weeks of polling access in Fl. how are you going to alledge "repression" this time?>>
I just showed you how. Make 'em all wait three hours or more even in an advance poll. More on the actual day. Pull out the state police to pull over black drivers for a "fake documents" search, coincidentally scheduled only for Election Day and coincidentally applied mainly to blacks. Purge the rolls of "felons" but make sure that - - by coincidence of course - - the "errors" in purging non-felons somehow apply mostly to blacks. It's been done before, plane. There's a playbook.
Thenit must be a Democratic playbook.
None of these things are happening in Florida districts that are being run by Republican election commissions , as in 2000 whenevery one of the problems you are pointing up happened in countys presided over by Democratic election commissions.
The fereverence of your belief demonstrates nothing to me , I know you are no sceptic.
Where is the evidence?
I need some even if you do not.
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so basically then, if McCain wins at this point, then "obviously", it was a "stolen election". Is that that the jist?
As I've stated before, if we go into Election Day with Obama 10 points ahead in polls in most of the states and then loses, what else should we think?
That conservatives do not like pollsters.
Curmudgeons are highly undercounted.
I am a Curmudgeon and I vote.
It might also indicate that conservatives have a proclivity for lying.
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so basically then, if McCain wins at this point, then "obviously", it was a "stolen election". Is that that the jist?
As I've stated before, if we go into Election Day with Obama 10 points ahead in polls in most of the states and then loses, what else should we think?
That conservatives do not like pollsters.
Curmudgeons are highly undercounted.
I am a Curmudgeon and I vote.
It might also indicate that conservatives have a proclivity for lying.
Quite possible , we don't like being played because we are not violins.
Pollsters who call us can be spoofed.
Try it ,it is fun.
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so basically then, if McCain wins at this point, then "obviously", it was a "stolen election". Is that that the jist?
As I've stated before, if we go into Election Day with Obama 10 points ahead in polls in most of the states and then loses, what else should we think?
That conservatives do not like pollsters.
Curmudgeons are highly undercounted.
I am a Curmudgeon and I vote.
It might also indicate that conservatives have a proclivity for lying.
Quite possible , we don't like being played because we are not violins.
Pollsters who call us can be spoofed.
Try it ,it is fun.
It's effects are not fun.
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I wonder if Biden or Obama can make an enourmous faux pas and hand us the three to five points we need?
Where that is a Biden there is still hope.
Obama may have already made it himself. I notice since this came out, the polls reflect a tightening race over the last 2 days...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck[/youtube]
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so basically then, if McCain wins at this point, then "obviously", it was a "stolen election". Is that that the jist?
As I've stated before, if we go into Election Day with Obama 10 points ahead in polls in most of the states and then loses, what else should we think?
That conservatives do not like pollsters.
Curmudgeons are highly undercounted.
I am a Curmudgeon and I vote.
It might also indicate that conservatives have a proclivity for lying.
Quite possible , we don't like being played because we are not violins.
Pollsters who call us can be spoofed.
Try it ,it is fun.
It's effects are not fun.
I think you could be a curmudgeon with very little training.
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so basically then, if McCain wins at this point, then "obviously", it was a "stolen election". Is that that the jist?
As I've stated before, if we go into Election Day with Obama 10 points ahead in polls in most of the states and then loses, what else should we think?
Depends on which polls were talking about now, don't it. The idea that an election should already be preordained, based solely on some polls is pretty transparent, in my book
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I imagine that the poll would seem a lot more important if McCain were in the lead.
But, of course, only the actual election counts.
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I imagine that the poll would seem a lot more important if McCain were in the lead.
But, of course, only the actual election counts.
If McCain had a five point lead , in a poll that had the tipical three point allowance for error.
You would give up?
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What exactly would I do to "give up'?
I already voted. I helped canvass a couple of neighborhoods for Obama.
I really don't know how I could "give up".
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What exactly would I do to "give up'?
I already voted. I helped canvass a couple of neighborhoods for Obama.
I really don't know how I could "give up".
You have not given up hope?
Nether have I.
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BT wrote:
>>It's only castles burning.<<
A Neil Young reference.
50 points to BT.
As for the election, it's never going to be over. If Barry wins you folks have eight years of payback on the way. If McCain wins we'll be treated to the same ole same ole.
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If Barry wins you folks have eight years of payback on the way. If McCain wins we'll be treated to the same ole same ole.
To you this is some sort of lame sporting event isn't it?
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But, of course, only the actual election counts.
Finally, someone who gets it