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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Christians4LessGvt on October 06, 2012, 07:51:18 PM
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Can anyone explain to me why the gas crisis in California and basically no-where else in the US?
There has to be something behind this?
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I'd like to know that, too. This isn't the first time this has happened. And it's especially frustrating when there are refineries within a few hours and we're paying the highest gas prices in the country - $4.69 a gallon for regular, last I saw.
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it`s strange no answer has come up so far
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Everyone in the supply chain will jack up their profits as high as they can.
Normally, competition keeps prices down.
'This suggests that all the suppliers have gotten together to refuse to compete on price. It won't be the first time this has happened, and it certainly will not be the last.
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Or that California regulations and taxes are more onerous than other states.
I don't really know why , but the same companys sell the same stuff in Georgia and seem to make the same profit margin on a lower price.
BTW the profit margin is pitifully low , if we paid the margin on fuel and food that we pay on cars and furniture we could not afford to drive or get fat.
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Everyone in the supply chain will jack up their profits as high as they can.
So the mean ole supply chain is not as mean in the 49 other states?
Again why is California seeing this gas crisis and pretty much everywhere else in the US not seeing it?
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Here’s part of the reason (http://orangepunch.ocregister.com/2012/09/28/gas-prices-high-heres-part-of-the-reason/71129/).
The 1990 Clean Air Act passed by Congress created minimum standards for gasoline nationwide that created a demand for boutique fuels. The purpose was to reduce emissions of dangerous chemicals, but lately seems to be doing more harm than good, according to Steven F. Hayward of the American Enterprise Institute.
Creating an artificial demand for ethanol additives added to the problem because states had created their own specialized standards under the act. The result is between 45 and 70 different blends of gasoline in the 50 states. The 34 states using some type of specially blended gasoline is one reason prices rise during summer when driving picks up increasing demand.
Also, the disparate fuel standards arbitrarily foisted on the market, segmented and undermined domestic competition among refiners of the fuel. That brought higher prices for specialized fuels and had the additional market distortion of discouraging foreign imports, skewing supply even more.
The bottom line is that these two effects alone tack on 10 cents to 15 cents per gallon, which adds to other costs at the pump. The government, here to help, brings with it a bill to be paid.
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(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y273/ItsZep/Politics/939fd9c9.jpg)
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Did you also catch the facts made in the debate that Obama couldn't refute?? That of the evil oil companies and their subsidies/tax incentives amount to a mere 3Billion, while Obama's coveted "green companies" were given 90+BILLION TAX DOLLARS in subsidies & incentives?
Yet which one is villified all the time??
(http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/gallery/mbg5v1-b781011653z.120121005180316000gif1almir.1.jpg)
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Also, the disparate fuel standards arbitrarily foisted on the market, segmented and undermined domestic competition among refiners of the fuel. That brought higher prices for specialized fuels and had the additional market distortion of discouraging foreign imports, skewing supply even more. The bottom line is that these two effects alone tack on 10 cents to 15 cents per gallon, which adds to other costs at the pump. The government, here to help, brings with it a bill to be paid
Wow SIRS you may be right again!
"The situation is compounded by a California pollution law that requires a special blend of cleaner-burning gasoline from April to October, said Denton Cinquegrana, executive editor of the Oil Price Information Service, which helps AAA compile its price survey"
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/07/Calif-gasoline-prices-hit-all-time-high---twice (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/07/Calif-gasoline-prices-hit-all-time-high---twice)
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and there you have a major reason CA is hit so much harder. But no, according to Xo, it's all JUST the CA individual Gasoline station owners & suppliers, who have nefariously had a massive conference call to agree not to compete with each other. Yea, that's it. And of course, he'll be able to support that wreckless claim now, right? ;)
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These clowns all got together to protest the law and decided to use the public as cannon fodder for their protests.
Breitbart is NOT BREIT, or believable, either.
It is fun to see that sirs is getting his due.
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Breitbart is NOT BREIT, or believable, either.
Hello? Anybody home?
The statement was made by Denton Cinquegrana,
executive editor of the Oil Price Information Service,
which helps AAA compile its price survey.
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D'oh ;D
(won't hold breath either, waiting for Xo to back up his latest asanine claim of these clowns all got together to protest the law and decided to use the public as cannon fodder for their protests)
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The clowns being the oil companies.
It won't be the last time that fatcats in California have gotten together to screw the public. Upton Sinclair's EPIC program was one of the first, and probably was the inspiration for the "strike of the creative and entrepreneurs" in Ayn Rand's silly 2000 page novel.
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That's just another unsubstantiated accusation. When you EVER decide to actually provide some evidence or some shred of support to back up any these asanine claims, we'll indeed be pleasantly surprised
As I said, I'm not going to hold my breath
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The clowns being the oil companies.
Yet those same "clowns" (stockholders) owned the oil companies
when Obama took office and gas was $1.88 a gallon.
Ummmmm what's changed?
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OUCH