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How to lose the next Thomas Edison or Steve Jobs
« on: September 16, 2015, 06:43:16 PM »
Irving's police chief announced Wednesday that charges won’t be filed against Ahmed Mohamed, the MacArthur High School freshman arrested Monday after he brought what school officials and police described as a “hoax bomb” on campus.

At a joint press conference with Irving ISD, Chief Larry Boyd said the device -- confiscated by an English teacher despite the teen’s insistence that it was a clock -- was “certainly suspicious in nature.”

“The student showed the device to a teacher, who was concerned that it was possibly the infrastructure for a bomb,” Boyd said.

School officers questioned Ahmed about the device and why Ahmed had brought it to school. Boyd said Ahmed was then handcuffed “for his safety and for the safety of the officers” and taken to a juvenile detention center. He was later released to his parents, Boyd said.

“The follow-up investigation revealed the device apparently was a homemade experiment, and there’s no evidence to support the perception he intended to create alarm,” Boyd said, describing the incident as a "naive accident."

During the news conference, Boyd touted the “outstanding relationship” he’s had with the Muslim community in Irving. He said he talked to members of the Muslim community this morning and plans to meet with Ahmed's father later today.

Asked if the teen's religious beliefs factored into his arrest, Boyd said the reaction “would have been the same” under any circumstances.

“We live in an age where you can’t take things like that to school,” he said. “Of course we’ve seen across our country horrific things happen, so we have to err on the side of caution.”

Irving ISD spokeswoman Lesley Weaver also addressed the media, saying that information “made public to this point has been very unbalanced.”

She declined to provide details on how school officials handled the incident, citing laws intended to safeguard student privacy.

“We were doing everything with an abundance of caution to protect all of our students in Irving,” she said.

Irving Mayor Beth Van Duyne took to Facebook to defend the actions of the school district and police, saying their daily work helped make Irving “one of the safest cities in the country.”

“I do not fault the school or the police for looking into what they saw as a potential threat,” Van Duyne wrote. “We have all seen terrible and violent acts committed in schools. ... Perhaps some of those could have been prevented and lives could have been spared if people were more vigilant.”

The mayor later amended her post, acknowledging that she would be “very upset” had the same thing happened to her own child.

“It is my sincere desire that Irving ISD students are encouraged to use their creativity, develop innovations and explore their interests in a manner that fosters higher learning,” Van Duyne wrote. “Hopefully, we can all learn from this week’s events and the student, who has obvious gifts, will not feel at all discouraged from pursuing his talent in electronics and engineering.”

Shortly after the press conference, President Barack Obama extended a Twitter invitation for Ahmed to bring his “cool clock” to the White House. “We should inspire more kids like you to like science. It’s what makes America great,” the tweet read.

Josh Earnest, Obama's press secretary, said the case goes to show how stereotypes can cloud the judgment of even the most “good-hearted people.”

“It’s clear that at least some of Ahmed's teachers failed him,” Earnest said. “That’s too bad, but it’s not too late for all of us to use this as a teachable moment and to search our own conscience for biases in whatever form they take.”

The White House also extended the teen an invitation to speak with NASA scientists and astronauts at next month’s Astronomy Night.

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg also joined the social media chorus, extending an open invitation to visit and exhorting Ahmed to “keep building.”

“Having the skill and ambition to build something cool should lead to applause, not arrest,” Zuckerberg wrote. “The future belongs to people like Ahmed.”

Earlier Wednesday at a modest, red-brick house in central Irving, Ahmed and his family welcomed media crews at the front door and in the backyard as they tried to come to grips with the boy’s overnight ascension to international celebrity.

His sisters, 18-year-old Eyman and 17-year-old Ayisha, could hardly keep up with the tweets and stunning news about their little brother. Because Ahmed was never much for social media, the girls set up a Twitter account for him, @IStandWithAhmed, and watched it balloon to thousands of followers within hours.

“We’re trending No. 1!” Ayisha cried to her sister, holding a cellphone over a stuffed coffee table in the living room.

“It's a blessing and a curse,” Ayisha said of Ahmed’s arrest and subsequent fame. “I don’t think he’ll ever be able to live normally again.”

But they were happy for invitations to visit companies including Google and to move and study in other cities, and for the tweets of support, including one from Hillary Clinton. They recalled how, barely two days earlier, their brother described struggling to hold back tears in front of police officers after his arrest.

Ahmed, after finishing up another interview in the backyard, recalled his emotions as he was handcuffed at Irving MacArthur High School and removed from campus.

“I was really mad,” Ahmed said as he looked at a much-retweeted photo of himself in handcuffs. “I was like, ‘Why am I here?’”

A Council on American Islamic Relations representative then hustled Ahmed and his family off to talk to a lawyer.

After they left, Ahmed’s grandmother, Aisha Musa, lay on a bed in the dining room, resting her feet. She had immigrated from Sudan with the rest of the family years ago.

She doesn’t speak English or know her exact age, but her granddaughters translated her take on her grandson’s celebrity: “I want my son’s son to grow old and have a good job. I thank God there’s nothing people can say but [that] we are good people.”

Staff writers Avi Selk, Naheed Rajwani, Todd Gillman and Robert Wilonsky contributed to this report.

Update at 10:09 a.m. Wednesday: Former secretary of state and Democratic presidential candidiate Hillary Clinton joined the tidal wave of tweets supporting Mohamed Ahmed after his arrest Monday for bringing a homemade digital clock to school.

"Assumptions and fear don't keep us safe -- they hold us back. Ahmed, stay curious and keep building,” Clinton's tweet read.

Irving ISD officials and Irving police will hold a press conference at 11 a.m. Wednesday at the Irving Criminal Justice Center. We will continue to update this story as new developments emerge.

Update at 9:32 a.m. Wednesday: After the story of Ahmed Mohamed's arrest for bringing a homemade digital clock to school went viral Tuesday, triggering an outpouring of support for him on social media, Ahmed tweeted a thank-you early Wednesday.

Original story by Avi Selk:

IRVING — Ahmed Mohamed — who makes his own radios and repairs his own go-kart — hoped to impress his teachers when he brought a homemade clock to MacArthur High on Monday.

Instead, the school phoned police about Ahmed’s circuit-stuffed pencil case.

So the 14-year-old missed the student council meeting and took a trip in handcuffs to juvenile detention. His clock now sits in an evidence room. Police say they may yet charge him with making a hoax bomb — though they acknowledge he told everyone who would listen that it’s a clock.

In the meantime, Ahmed’s been suspended, his father is upset and the Council on American-Islamic Relations is once again eyeing claims of Islamophobia in Irving.

Box of circuit boards

A box full of circuit boards sits at the foot of Ahmed’s small bed in central Irving. His door marks the border where the Mohamed family’s cramped but lavishly decorated house begins to look like the back room at RadioShack.

“Here in high school, none of the teachers know what I can do,” Ahmed said, fiddling with a cable while a soldering iron dangled from the shelf behind him.

He loved robotics club in middle school and was searching for a similar niche in his first few weeks of high school.

So he decided to do what he’s always done: He built something.

Ahmed’s clock was hardly his most elaborate creation. He said he threw it together in about 20 minutes before bedtime on Sunday: a circuit board and power supply wired to a digital display, all strapped inside a case with a tiger hologram on the front.

He showed it to his engineering teacher first thing Monday morning and didn’t get quite the reaction he’d hoped for.

“He was like, ‘That’s really nice,’” Ahmed said. “‘I would advise you not to show any other teachers.’”

He kept the clock inside his school bag in English class, but the teacher complained when the alarm beeped in the middle of a lesson. Ahmed brought his invention up to show her afterward.

“She was like, it looks like a bomb,” he said.

“I told her, ‘It doesn’t look like a bomb to me.’”

The teacher kept the clock. When the principal and a police officer pulled Ahmed out of sixth period, he suspected he wouldn’t get it back.

They led Ahmed into a room where four other police officers waited. He said an officer he’d never seen before leaned back in his chair and remarked: “Yup. That’s who I thought it was.”

Ahmed felt suddenly conscious of his brown skin and his name — one of the most common in the Muslim religion. But the police kept him busy with questions.

The bell rang at least twice, he said, while the officers searched his belongings and questioned his intentions. The principal threatened to expel him if he didn’t make a written statement, he said.

“They were like, ‘So you tried to make a bomb?’” Ahmed said.

“I told them no, I was trying to make a clock.”

“He said, ‘It looks like a movie bomb to me.’”

Police skepticism

Ahmed never claimed his device was anything but a clock, said police spokesman James McLellan. And police have no reason to think it was dangerous. But officers still didn’t believe Ahmed was giving them the whole story.


“We have no information that he claimed it was a bomb,” McLellan said. “He kept maintaining it was a clock, but there was no broader explanation.”

Asked what broader explanation the boy could have given, the spokesman explained:

“It could reasonably be mistaken as a device if left in a bathroom or under a car. The concern was, what was this thing built for? Do we take him into custody?”

Police led Ahmed out of MacArthur about 3 p.m., his hands cuffed behind him and an officer on each arm. A few students gaped in the halls. He remembers the shocked expression of his student counselor — the one “who knows I’m a good boy.”

Ahmed was spared the inside of a cell. The police sent him out of the juvenile detention center to meet his parents shortly after taking his fingerprints.

They’re still investigating the case, and Ahmed hasn’t been back to school. His family said the principal suspended him for three days.

“They thought, ‘How could someone like this build something like this unless it’s a threat?’” Ahmed said.

An Irving ISD statement gave no details about the case, citing student privacy laws. But a letter addressed to "Parents/Guardians" and signed by MacArthur Principal Dan Cummings said Irving police had "responded to a suspicious-looking item on campus" and had determined that "the item ... did not pose a threat to your child's safety."

‘Invent good things’

“He just wants to invent good things for mankind,” said Ahmed’s father, Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed, who immigrated from Sudan and occasionally returns there to run for president. “But because his name is Mohamed and because of Sept. 11, I think my son got mistreated.”

Mohamed is familiar with anti-Islamic politics. He once made national headlines for debating a Florida pastor who burned a Quran.

But he wasn’t paying much attention this summer when Irving Mayor Beth Van Duyne became a national celebrity in anti-Islamic circles, fueling rumors in speeches that the religious minority was plotting to usurp American laws.

However, the Council on American-Islamic Relations took note.

“This all raises a red flag for us: how Irving’s government entities are operating in the current climate,” said Alia Salem, who directs the council’s North Texas chapter and has spoken to lawyers about Ahmed’s arrest.

“We’re still investigating,” she said, “but it seems pretty egregious.”

Meanwhile, Ahmed is sitting home in his bedroom, tinkering with old gears and electrical converters, pronouncing words like “ethnicity” for what sounds like the first time.

He’s vowed never to take an invention to school again.
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Re: How to lose the next Thomas Edison or Steve Jobs
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2015, 07:15:34 PM »
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.......... describing the incident as a "naive accident."


Yes.

Though who exactly it is who seems naïve right now he might be surprised at.

Lots of things other than bombs use timers, I feel there was a lack of careful thinking here.

It might be interesting to know whether this would have happened to a Caucasian Christian named Jack, but how to know that?


http://www.amazon.com/E-Projects-Digital-Clock-Soldering-Kit/dp/B00CPT88JO

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/331438499334?ul_noapp=true&chn=ps&lpid=82

http://electronicsusa.com/productskits.html

These were easy to find , clocks are a common electronic student project.

When I was a student such a project was a requirement, lots of clocks were built plain and fancy.

I built a Theremin, not a really good one , but it worked. 

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Re: How to lose the next Thomas Edison or Steve Jobs
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2015, 08:50:02 PM »
It does make sense to be concern about an electronic device with a clock display but its also an episode of still the beaver which the beavers son made one as a school project.


people will hate to hear this but it take very little to stop innovation it's the reason we never hear anyone can replace steve jobs.

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Re: How to lose the next Thomas Edison or Steve Jobs
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2015, 08:58:53 PM »
It should have been obvious that it was a bomb because there was no explosive attached to it. Digital clocks are a common device for projects. Every computer has at least one built in.
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Re: How to lose the next Thomas Edison or Steve Jobs
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2015, 09:16:19 PM »
From now on he will have limits on what kind of stuff to buy or make at home. It will always be at the back of his head to second guess what people will think of things he's doing. Some will not see a problem but can we afford to such innovative limits

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Re: How to lose the next Thomas Edison or Steve Jobs
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2015, 09:43:56 PM »
   A bomb might look like a cardboard box, a pressure cooker , a backpack, or a piece of string.

    Some look like pipe some look like pineapples and some look like clods of dirt.

     Some resemble a tuna can or a pie plate or a birdhouse or a fuel cylinder.

     Some real bombs actually look like black globes.

   It may be a good thing that most of us are not very familiar with what a bomb looks like, that is a very hard won familiarity.

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Re: How to lose the next Thomas Edison or Steve Jobs
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2015, 02:38:29 PM »
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

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Re: How to lose the next Thomas Edison or Steve Jobs
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2015, 09:32:49 PM »
President Obama did precisely the correct and right thing here.

We do not need bad publicity involving clever, well meaning Muslim kids.

Would McCain or Romney have invited him to thew White House?

I really doubt that the idea would have occed to them or any of their advisers.
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Re: How to lose the next Thomas Edison or Steve Jobs
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2015, 02:28:28 AM »
  It is a Reagan kind of thing to do.

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Re: How to lose the next Thomas Edison or Steve Jobs
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2015, 03:47:09 AM »
That doesn't make sense. None of those actions warrant an invite. But any kid who makes something tends to get on the list of possible invite. It doesn't help his arguement by saying muslim several times. It actually support the teens who claimed racism about the bomb charge.

He's too bias

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Re: How to lose the next Thomas Edison or Steve Jobs
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2015, 10:45:23 AM »
 It is a Reagan kind of thing to do.
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No, it was NOT.


Reagan never did anything like this.

Not the real Reagan. Perhaps the image of St Ronald of Reagan that inhabits your merrythought.

It sent the exact message that this country needs to send to Muslims: we are not at war with your religion. We respect Muslims as human beings. We are only fighting those who seek to do us harm.
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Re: How to lose the next Thomas Edison or Steve Jobs
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2015, 12:33:35 AM »
It is a Reagan kind of thing to do.
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No, it was NOT.


Reagan never did anything like this.

Not the real Reagan. Perhaps the image of St Ronald of Reagan that inhabits your merrythought.

It sent the exact message that this country needs to send to Muslims: we are not at war with your religion. We respect Muslims as human beings. We are only fighting those who seek to do us harm.

Yes Reagan was wont to make the large and conceptual into the personal and understandable.

There are several examples of Reagan sending congratulations personally , not too unlike this.

So....

You dislike Reagan so much that you can't let me complement President Obama via such a comparison ?



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Re: How to lose the next Thomas Edison or Steve Jobs
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2015, 12:52:41 AM »
Now im confused.

I saw the full picture and it looks like a briefcase with electronics in it. But how is that possible since the device was discovered in his bag. Meaning the image is off scale to look like a briefcase bomb.

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Re: How to lose the next Thomas Edison or Steve Jobs
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2015, 01:22:58 AM »
http://makezine.com/2015/09/16/this-is-ahmed-mohameds-clock/



  I agree with this article , these look like the guts from a typical digital alarm clock.

   If he assembled this from found parts or repaired a broken clock it would look a lot like this.

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They didnlt think it was a bomb
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2015, 09:13:27 AM »


Great Post Sent to Me Today

I said: it's sad they thought that kid had a bomb.
She said: they didn't think he had a bomb.
I said: yes, they thought he made a bomb and even called the police.
She said: They just wanted to humiliate a little Muslim boy. They didn't think he had a bomb.
I said: Don't be a conspiracy theorist. They might be a little prejudiced, but I'm sure they thought he had a bomb.
She said: OK.
But they didn't evacuate the school, like you do when there's a bomb.
They didn't call a bomb squad - like you do when there's a bomb.
They didn't get as far away from him as possible, like you do when there's a bomb.
Then they put him and the clock in an office: not like you do when there's a bomb
Then they waited with him for the police to arrive, and then they put the clock in the same car as the police.
Then they took pictures of it.

I said: Damn.....They never thought he had a bomb.

EQUAL RIGHTS are HUMAN RIGHTS
The Irving PD, & the School Admin will be rightfully sued.
They can now pay Ahmed's way to MIT.
Thanks.

"They never thought he had a bomb"
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