Someday this OUTRAGE will end! - How can anyone not be OUTRAGED?

[Christians4LessGvt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BtpdYlcbVRQ#!

[sirs]

Kinda helps explain the near silence from the media, as it relates to the Gosnell trial, don't it     

[Christians4LessGvt]

Yes it does SIRS.

I just can not fathom how someone could possibly be so heartless and cruel to see a newborn baby lying on a table struggling to breathe and not even try to help the infant. Pretend it's ok to not render aid and just allow a living breathing baby to die? It's a real tragedy our society has reached a point like this.

[Xavier_Onassis]

What if a baby magically appears on a pitcher's mound as the result of a botched abortion? Or on a rollercoaster.

There is nothing more stooopid than a Florida Teabagger. We have a legislature with wall-to-wall grandstanding morons.

I am unoutraged.

A woman has the right to reproduce or choose not to do so. Period.

[Christians4LessGvt]

[Christians4LessGvt]

What if a baby magically appears on a pitcher's mound as the result of a botched abortion? Or on a rollercoaster.

Xavier what are you talking about?
How does this have anything to do with a born baby alive being left to die?

[sirs]

Needed to catch up on his strawman tactics, after taking his sabbatical?     

[BSB]

Yeah, lets not allow a 15 year old to abort if she wants to so she can be kept barefoot, pregnant, and undereducated. That would be great for her and great for society in general.


BSB

[Xavier_Onassis]

Living aborted fetuses on tables are about as rare as fetuses on catcher's mounds.
As for the abortionist, let the court decide.

Women should ALWAYS have the right to have an abortion.

If there is an age restriction on these $50 pills, then the fact that 15 year old girls do not have IDs as a rule.

What about the teenager who has been raped by her father, uncle or some other family member?

If the pill is safe, why restrict it? That makes no sense.

Passing laws against abortions is like passing laws against men castrating themselves. Think about it.

What right does some moron like sirs have to tell a women she must have a baby?

[sirs]

Living aborted fetuses on tables....

Kind of an oxymoron there, since if they're living, they're no longer aborted

....are about as rare as fetuses on catcher's mounds.

Actually, since there has never been the latter, but there has been the former, they are "not as rare"

As for the abortionist, let the court decide.

Who claimed otherwise??

What about the teenager who has been raped by her father, uncle or some other family member?

What about it?

If the pill is safe, why restrict it?

It's not so much the "safe" that is at issue, (and that is debatable, since there are warnings on these medications, that IIRC do reference the possibility of cancer), but the OTC that is at issue, and keeps parents out of the loop, to some serious potential medical issues, regarding the child, that they are completely responsible for

What right does some moron like sirs have to tell a women she must have a baby?

That'd be the right of the unborn baby, its right to live

[BT]

I saw clips of that fla legislation hearing and the editors of this clip left out the most important scene.

The PP person kept saying that any decisions concerning the fetus was up to the patient and their doctor.

One of the legislators asked whether it was the view of PP that  if a fetus that was living breathing and moving on that table they became the patient at the point of extraction, The PP person had no answer.

Which really is the crux of the issue, isn't it? When does that fetus attain personhood.

[sirs]

Which really is the crux of the issue, isn't it? When does that fetus attain personhood.

IMHO, Morally, its at conception.  Legally, I believe its at 26weeks, at least in most courthouses

[Christians4LessGvt]

When does that fetus attain personhood?

BT how could any rational person, even if they are pro-abort, argue that the fetus was not a person after it is born alive? This is outrageous that a living breathing already born baby is left to die on the table.

[kimba1]

aint the question is this legal or not?

also I don`t recall any great push from the pro-choice side about this matter if anything this argument is about  should this procedure  be lumped or not with abortions.

26 weeks was stated here .

as a guys I`ll say I never followed this issue so has things changed so much since I was out?

[Xavier_Onassis]

This simply DOES NOT HAPPEN, so it is not an issue.

Fuck the teabaggers in the FL legislature, they are grandstanding morons.
Also fuck anyone who denies a woman her right to decide.

Her rights OUTWEIGH the rights of any damn unwanted baby/ fetus, whatever the hell you call it.

All these stupid laws mean is that women with money will go elsewhere, and women without money will get stuck with unwanted children, who will grow up pissed off and break into sirs house and shoot hoim with his guns.

Justice, delayed, but justice, nonetheless.