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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Lanya on March 06, 2007, 01:25:05 PM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17479718/
Jury convicts Libby on four of five charges
Verdict in CIA leak case reached on 10th day of deliberations
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stay tuned for the pardon
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stay tuned for the pardon
Couldnt agree with you more. It is just the kind of evil bullshit that characterizes your idols.
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stay tuned for the pardon
Couldnt agree with you more. It is just the kind of evil bullshit that characterizes your idols.
Proveing that no one is above the law . Scooter Libbey is going to prison for lieing , his new cellmate Bill Clinton says he is going to be glad for the company.
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stay tuned for the pardon
Couldnt agree with you more. It is just the kind of evil bullshit that characterizes your idols.
Proveing that no one is above the law . Scooter Libbey is going to prison for lieing , his new cellmate Bill Clinton says he is going to be glad for the company.
Bill never was and never will be found quilty because he did nothing to harm the country as you losers did.
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stay tuned for the pardon
Couldnt agree with you more. It is just the kind of evil bullshit that characterizes your idols.
Proveing that no one is above the law . Scooter Libbey is going to prison for lieing , his new cellmate Bill Clinton says he is going to be glad for the company.
Bill never was and never will be found quilty because he did nothing to harm the country as you losers did.
Bill can't meet the standard for the practice of law in Arkansas.
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Proveing that no one is above the law . Scooter Libbey is going to prison for lieing , his new cellmate Bill Clinton says he is going to be glad for the company.
Bill never was and never will be found quilty because he did nothing to harm the country as you losers did.
Bill can't meet the standard for the practice of law in Arkansas.
Definately found contempt, by a court of law, for something. Perhaps knute could fill us in as to what he was found in contempt for, and why he was disbarred. Had nothing to do with lying, did it? ;)
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Boortz..........
http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html
I think Scooter Libby is...
innocent of these charges. The jury is wrong.
a "fall guy" for this administration.
guilty. I agree with the jury's verdict.
{Go to the site to vote on the poll}
So Scooter Libby has been found guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice. According to federal sentencing guidelines, he can expect to do 1 to 3 years in the slammer for lying about something he had no reason to lie about. And while Scooter Libby is in the can, Sandy Burglar, who essentially committed treason by stealing classified documents, roams free. Nice to know the real criminals are going to jail. Ahh .. .but there was a plea deal there. No telling what Libby could have gotten with a plea deal.
The mainstream media is treating this like everybody knows who Scooter Libby is. But if you went downtown in any major American city at lunchtime, I bet you'd not find 1 person out of 100 that could tell you what Scooter Libby's position was in the Bush Administration. The media and the Democrats are somehow making this out to be the "tip of the iceberg." The tip of what iceberg? No one else will be charged in this investigation and the case is closed. Big whoop. Sounds more like the iceberg has melted.
So Scooter Libby and his lawyers will now try and milk the appeal process so he can make it past the November 2008 election and grab his certain presidential pardon. In the meantime, taxpayers are stuck with the tab for the entire prosecution. By the way, the jury says they felt sorry for Scooter Libby, but still convicted him. I'd hate to see what their verdict would have been had they not felt sorry for him.
How do I feel about the verdict? I the jury felt that he lied, then the verdict is proper. If it was a jury assembled of Democrat sycophants eager to nail the Bush administration, we have a problem. I wasn't there. I didn't listen to the testimony. I didn't see the exhibits, so I can't say whether the verdict is proper or not. You lie under oath, you get charged. That is as it should be. Ditto for lying to investigators. I only wish we could have nailed the Clintons for their similarly faulty memories.
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Libby was a fall guy and took the rap for Cheney.
Cheney's the one who needs to do the time.
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Libby was a fall guy and took the rap for Cheney. Cheney's the one who needs to do the time.
Apparently all those millions of dollars later, the investigation still wasn't thorough enough :P
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He is guilty of lying to FBI and a grand jury. That is guilty, period. Fall guy he is NOT. He lied, he perjured. He did it for money, for bucks, for his boss/bosses. Throw him the hell in jail.
If he is pardoned, then that will be interesting....That would be very interesting. I'd almost like to see that. If he is pardoned, he accepts guilt.
I think there would be some further legal action against him in that case.
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If he is pardoned, then that will be interesting....That would be very interesting. I'd almost like to see that. If he is pardoned, he accepts guilt.
Oh, is that how it works. He's guilty unless he's pardonened in which case he accepts his guilt? So as long as he remains convicted as being guilty, he's really innocent?
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Sirs,
Nixon was pardoned. They had to talk him into taking the pardon because a pardon means, "You broke the law and were convicted but I forgive you." Nixon didn't like that but eventually accepted it. (Or so the story goes.)
It doesn't expunge Libby's record and make it as if it never happened. It doesn't overturn a guilty verdict. It isn't a "not guilty" finding. It's a pardon.
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Oh, is that how it works. He's guilty unless he's pardonened in which case he accepts his guilt? So as long as he remains convicted as being guilty, he's really innocent?
Lanya's correct. A confession of guilt is implicit in a pardon. You have to sign an admission of guilt as part of the pardon request.
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Lanya's correct. A confession of guilt is implicit in a pardon. You have to sign an admission of guilt as part of the pardon request.
Ahhh, I see. Thanks for the clarity Ami. Notice also how fast Lanya responded to this query, vs the ones regarding the "Fairness" Doctrine? :D
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Although perjury is a crime, and Scooterman is guilty of it, the actual loathsome act was Cheney deciding to punish Wilson for basically telling the truth (there was no Iraqi attempt to buy uranium in Niger) and trashing a part of the long string of lies that the Juniorbushies told in order to justify the misbegotten conquest scheme for Iraq.
Iraq had nothing to do with the 9-11 attacks, and there would have been no approval of Congress or of the public to invade Iraq if not for this long series of lies.
People, many people, have died as a result of this deception, and Cheney was the mastermind. That is why I say that he should go to prison for a very, very long time.
I doubt that Scooter will do a day in prison.
Cheney will get little more than a bad reputation as the worst VP ever, and of course, even richer.
Because in addition to being a liar, he is a thief.
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Although perjury is a crime, and Scooterman is guilty of it, the actual loathsome act was Cheney deciding to punish Wilson for basically telling the truth (there was no Iraqi attempt to buy uranium in Niger) and trashing a part of the long string of lies that the Juniorbushies told in order to justify the misbegotten conquest scheme for Iraq.
And basically that's nothing more than your unsubstantiated opinion, which includes a "long string of facts" to the contrary
Iraq had nothing to do with the 9-11 attacks, and there would have been no approval of Congress or of the public to invade Iraq if not for this long series of lies.
Not even going to play that game any more, since it was never about Iraq having to do with anything regarding 911. Far too many quotes to the contrary, have been presented to debunk the above irrational nonsense ::)
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"... to punish Wilson for basically telling the truth (there was no Iraqi attempt to buy uranium in Niger) and trashing a part of the long string of lies that the Juniorbushies told in order to justify ..........."
Is that supposed to be the truth?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-07-21-uranium_x.htm
How does going to Niger tell Mr Wilson anything?
Is that something like going to a Pawn Shop and asking the proprieter if he has been fenceing?
As it turns out, there is not enough evidence of any intet to xpose Mrs Wilson for there to be any inictments or convictions on that score , but a an apparently guilty of keeping poor notes might be locked up for 25 years.