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Re: Resolved: Herman Cain should withdraw from the primaries
« Reply #60 on: November 08, 2011, 01:24:44 PM »



'She's a complete gold digger':
Murky past of Herman Cain accuser starts to emerge


Fiance of Sharon Bialek says he is supporting her but did not find out until Friday

Filed for bankruptcy twice
Accused former boyfriend of harassing her to pay a loan
Cain appears on Jimmy Kimmel saying he will fight the accusations
Father found out about allegations on Monday

By Rachel Quigley

 8th November 2011

A 'gold digger' embroiled in legal and financial difficulties who has always lived above her station and will do anything to never have to work again.

This is the portrait that has started to emerge of the fourth woman to accuse Herman Cain of sexual harassment - the first to come out publicly.

Though her lawyer Gloria Allred painted a respectable and prestigious education and employment history for Sharon Bialek, 50, just a day later it has been revealed that she has not held a job for more than two years and has filed for bankruptcy twice.

The 50-year-old is a single mother and suburban homemaker who lives in a large five bedroom house with her fiance - who said he first heard about the 'shocking' allegations on Friday.
Mark Harwood, who has been dating the 50-year-old for several years after meeting online, said he will stand by his fianc?e and believes coming out publicly was a 'gutsy' thing to do.

He said: 'It's not an anti-political thing. It's not a money thing. She's just trying to do the right thing, and that takes guts.'

A former employee of the National Restaurant Association Education Fund, Ms Bialek told a press conference in New York yesterday that when she went to Mr Cain for  advice on finding a new job in July 1997, he 'put his hand on my leg under my skirt and reached for my genitals. He also grabbed my head and brought it towards his crotch'.


Herman Cain's campaign immediately released a statement saying the allegations were untrue and the embattled nominee appeared on the Jimmy Kimmel show last night saying he was going to come out fighting.
'I was listening very closely and then when it was all over with, I said, well I know what we got to do because there's not an ounce of truth in all of these accusations and my team is putting this stuff together.

'That is why I'm willing to do a press conference tomorrow to set the record straight. I'm in it to win it and I'm not going to be discouraged.'
'This is a lady who lives off the system. She is hellbent on finding a way of never having to work and living the lifestyle she wants to live, a very affluent lifestyle'Meanwhile, a friend of Ms Bialek, from Chicago, told the New York Post: 'She has a very infectious personality. It?s easy to see how she won [Cain] over. But the reality of her situation is -- she?s a complete gold digger. It?s all about the money.'
Adding that she was from a middle-income family but lives in a posh house while running from bill collectors, the source said: 'Most of her jobs ended in termination. It?s always the employer?s fault, not hers.

'This is a lady who lives off the system. She is hellbent on finding a way of never having to work and living the lifestyle she wants to live, a very affluent lifestyle.'
Details of a number of legal and financial difficulties have since emerged, with the Chicago Tribune listing a long history with tax evasion and late or missed credit card payments.
The paper reported that Ms Bialek has filed for personal bankruptcy twice, first in 1991 and then again in 2001.
In 2001, she claimed $5,700 in assets and more than $36,000 in liabilities. Among the creditors seeking payment was a management firm demanding back rent of $4,500, four credit card companies and a lawyer asking for his legal fees.
WHO IS SHARON BIALEK?
Born and raised in Chicago, Ms Bialek graduated from Carl Schurz High School and briefly attended Northeastern Illinois University before enrolling at Arizona State University. She graduated from ASU in 1983 with a communications degree, a school spokesman said.
In 1996 she was hired by the National Restaurant Association Education Fund as the manager of industrial relations before being fired a year later.
After that, she worked for five years in WGN Radio's marketing department, Gloria Allred said. She is also said to have spent two-and-a-half years at CBS radio as managing director for nontraditional revenue.
It was also revealed at the press conference that she co-hosted a cooking show on television for nine years and worked for Revlon as an account manager and for the Easter Seals Society in corporate development.

Gloria Allred described her client as a 'registered Republican', but the 50-year-old does not have an active voter card in Illinois, election officials said. The state does not allow voters to register by party, but records show she pulled a GOP ballot in the 2008 primary.

As well as becoming acquainted with Cain, Ms Bialek is also said to have dated current White Sox analyst Steve Stone in the 1980s.
                                                                                 Source: Chicago Tribune

She is also said to have accused a former boyfriend of harassing her for money he had loaned her after she borrowed $4,500 from him.
The IRS filed a tax lien against her in 2009 for nearly $5,200. In August, the Illinois Department of Revenue claimed Ms Bialek owed the state more than $4,300, including penalties and interest, relating to income taxes from 2004, according to county records.

Court records also show creditors took legal action against her during the past decade, including at least one lawsuit filed in Cook County.
But Mark Harwood, a corporate executive in the medical equipment industry, denied she had any financial difficulties and claimed he supports her so she can look after her 13-year-old son.
Her father, Chester Bialek, said he did not know about his daughter's allegation until Monday and said that though he was surprised, he is supporting her decision to come forward.

On Monday night, Sharon Bialek told Piers Morgan she regarded Cain as someone she 'went to for help' and is shocked that he would 'use his power in such a way'.
She said that she is not coming forward for the purpose of making money and is aware of the backlash that she faces, claiming she can handle it.

When asked about the potential effects on her teenage son's life, the single mother said: 'He's the love of my life... I want him to know that his mommy did something good for women, that she stood up for what she believed in, and I think that's a more important lesson to learn.'
In a news conference earlier Monday, Ms Bialek went public with her claims, accusing the Republican frontrunner of being 'aggressive' and 'sexually inappropriate' towards her. 

When she asked him what he was doing he replied: 'You want a job don't you?'

The single mother, who worked for the National Restaurant Association under Cain from 1996 to 1997, made an appeal to the embattled nominee saying: 'I really didn't want to be here today, but I want you, Mr Cain, to come clean. Just admit what you did. Admit you were inappropriate to people...and then move forward.

'Mr Cain, I implore you, Make this right.'
Cain's office immediately released a statement after the press conference saying: 'Just as the country finally begins to refocus on our crippling $15 trillion national debt and the unacceptably high unemployment rate, now activist celebrity lawyer Gloria Allred is bringing forth more false accusations against the character of Republican front-runner Herman Cain.

'All allegations of harassment against Mr Cain are completely false. Mr Cain has never harassed anyone.

'Fortunately the American people will not allow Mr. Cain's bold '9-9-9 Plan', clear foreign policy vision and plans for energy independence to be overshadowed by these bogus attacks.'

The fifth round of sexual harassment claims come after the GOP presidential candidate's popularity dropped from 66 per cent to 57 per cent, leaving Mitt Romney leading the polls with 63 per cent.

Ms Bialek agreed by phone to travel to Washington to meet him for a drink to discuss her options either with the company or with another.
The former cooking show co-host said Herman Cain sat beside her many times at dinners, luncheons and conventions when she was employed by the NRA, and had spoken with her extensively at this time.
 The single mother alleged that Herman Cain reached under her skirt in 1997 as she sought help in finding a job
It was her boyfriend at the time who suggested she go to him for advice, believing he thought 'highly' of her.
When she arrived at the Capitol Hilton hotel, she found that he had upgraded her room to a palatial suite, which she initially thought was done by her boyfriend until Cain later told her, 'I upgraded you.'

They met for drinks in the lobby and then had dinner at an Italian restaurant when he asked her, 'Why are you here?'
She explained that she was reaching out to him at the behest of her boyfriend for help finding a job.
Describing the actual moment of the alleged sexual harassment, Ms Bialek, fighting back tears, told the news conference: 'He suddenly reached over and put his hand on my leg...under my skirt and reached for my genitals. He also grabbed my head and brought it towards his crotch
'When I asked him what he was doing he said, "You want a job don't you?" I told him to stop and he did, I asked him to leave me to my hotel and he did.'
She said she was surprised and shocked at his actions.

Introducing the single mother, her lawyer Gloria Allred said she was 'disgusted' at Herman Cain's behaviour and said that he 'provided Sharon with a stimulus package of his own' when she went to him for advice.
Written, sworn statements were later read out by Ms Allred from Ms Bialek's former boyfriend, a pediatrician, and a businessman friend and mentor whom she also confided in at the time.
The business card the alleged victim held when she was employed by the NRA was also shown at the conference.

Ms Bialek said she was coming forward now to give a 'face and a voice to the other women'.

A woman who received a cash settlement from the restaurant association in response to her harassment claim rejected Cain's denials on Friday.

She said through her lawyer she was the victim of a 'series of inappropriate behaviours and unwanted advances' by Cain in 1999.
Cain revealed over the weekend that it is his wife Gloria who has been hardest hit by the decades-old allegations.
But his popularity among the voters has also taken a hit as the percentage of Republicans who view the Tea Party darling favourably dropped 9 percentage points.

And among all registered voters, Cain's popularity declined 5 percentage points, to 32 per cent from 37 per cent.

He said in the interview: 'My wife, obviously like most spouses, actually took it harder than I did because she knew about this, she knew that there was baseless from 1999.
'And I've had people telling me that usually the family members, um, they're the ones that emotionally take it so much - take it harder than the candidates.

'See the candidate being me, it's like I'm in the boxing match every day, throwing punches back, alright.
'Well when you've got to turn on the TV and watch all of the, uh, exaggerations and innuendos about your husband that you know hadn't done anything wrong, it can have an emotional toll. But she's doing fine now, she's doing fine now.'
Cain has continued to vehemently deny the accusations and has charged the presidential campaign of Texas governor Rick Perry with leaking the story.

Perry's campaign denies any involvement, which surfaced in Politico more than a week ago.

But now four woman have accused Cain of sexual harassment from his time as the restaurant industry's top lobbyist in the late 1990s.
FAMED ATTORNEY GLORIA ALLRED
 Gloria Allred is a feminist American lawyer noted for taking high-profile and often controversial cases.
She represented Amber Frey when Frey was a witness in the criminal case against Scott Peterson and has also represented cases against the Boy Scouts of America for excluding an eleven year old girl named Katrina Yeaw, something she referred to as gender apartheid.
She represented Nicole Brown Simpson's family during the O. J. Simpson murder trial and more recently defended Rachel Uchitel when she was accused of having an affair with Tiger Woods.
Earlier this year she appeared at a press conference with former pornographic actress Ginger Lee in regard to Representative Anthony Weiner allegedly coaching her to lie on his behalf in relation to a sexting scandal.
According to her website, Ms Allred is the 'most famous woman attorney practicing law in the nation today, a tireless and successful advocate whose high-profile legal battles on behalf of victims whose rights have been violated have led to many landmark precedent-setting court decisions and hundreds of millions of dollars which she has won for her clients'.
Cain has given conflicting accounts of the cases since the news broke a week ago. He insists the claims were baseless and that he was wrongfully accused.
The allegations have received wide attention. The Reuters/Ipsos poll found more than 80 percent of respondents had heard of them, with Republicans the most aware, at 88 per cent, while independents the least aware, but still at a relatively high 64 per cent.
Talking about the last week, Cain recognised that things had gotten off to 'a  little bit of a bumpy start'.
He said: 'I knew that that there was nothing to these faceless claims. I knew that.
'And even though I may not have responded on Monday morning as crisply and precise as I did later in the day, I'd do it all over again if I had to.'
He also said he was in the race 'for the long haul' and cited last week's fundraising figures, which showed him netting hundreds of thousands of dollars on the web.
He said: 'I am in it to win it. And far as we're concerned, these allegations aren't going anywhere. I mean people might make up some more stuff. We are in it to win it.
'And here's one other thing. Last week, in the middle of this fire storm, we have had the best fundraising week in the history of this campaign. The American people are sick of government politics.'
Despite the poll result, which showed 53 per cent of respondents believed the allegations were true despite his denials,  Cain predicted his campaign will not be adversely affected by them.
It also revealed that Republicans were less likely to believe they are true, with 39 per cent thinking they are accurate.
Ipsos pollster Chris Jackson said: 'The most striking thing is that Herman Cain is actually seeing a fairly substantial decline in ratings toward him particularly among Republicans.'
Four in 10 poll respondents said the harassment issue had made them less favourable toward Cain. And about one in three Republicans, or 35 percent, said the controversy had made them less favourable toward Cain.
Jackson said it may well be that the wave of support that carried the conservative Cain to the top of the Republican field was now cresting.
He said: 'I think he is probably cresting now. I think this week, last week, were sort of the high-water mark.'


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Re: Resolved: Herman Cain should withdraw from the primaries
« Reply #61 on: November 08, 2011, 02:47:15 PM »
I say once more, let Cain be Cain. Let him have his say, let all that think they have something to say have theirs and let the voters decide. This is not a criminal case and legal rules do not apply. The only rule that applies here is whether the Republicans who vote in the primary want him of someone else to be their candidate.

One can speculate, I suppose, based on the accusations and counteraccusations that go flying about are the sort of thing that our country needs in addition to the current recession, wars in the Middle East, the budget and the deficit.

It is true that reality TV is sure to be more exciting than "Accounting with the Stars" or "Deficit Island".  For some, it could be that politics should be really entertaining. In such case, Cain and Perry would be ideal leaders. Perhaps they shoudl get together at that renamed place in Texas, what do they call it now? "Caucasianhead".


Let the primaries begin!

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Re: Resolved: Herman Cain should withdraw from the primaries
« Reply #62 on: November 08, 2011, 03:13:53 PM »
Be careful what you wish for
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Re: Resolved: Herman Cain should withdraw from the primaries
« Reply #63 on: November 08, 2011, 04:44:23 PM »
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......why on earth would this guy have to force his attention on any woman when so many others were lined up to give him anything he wanted?

   You mean Herman Cain?

    That is hardly enough diffrence anyway.

     Heart and Edwards have never been accused of abuse or rape, infidelity is a milder offense but is still quite enough.

      We know at this point that Clinton was guilty of almost everything he was accused of, but when he was first accused no real proof was offered and the presumption of innocence carryed his case while he was elected.

      Neither Heart nor Edwards had much problem with mere accusation, the finding of evidence made a lot of diffrence.

      Clinton coped with the constant barrage of accusation by having a section of his staff devoted to caricter assination of his accusers, they had started working on Monica untill she produced DNA evidence, then they threw in the towel.

    Tonight Herman Cain is holding a press confrence, if he is actually guilty of something like half of what Clinton is guilty of then he is toast and should just ask for the butter. If he is not guilty of anything , or guilty only of really small indescretions he should confrount the media , confrount his accusers and demand that all proofs be aired.

   If Proof is lacking there is a backlash waiting .

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Re: Resolved: Herman Cain should withdraw from the primaries
« Reply #64 on: November 08, 2011, 05:06:06 PM »
Well if anyone was wondering why the first three accusers didn't want to step forward into the limelight, the Chicago Tribune's hatchet job on Sharon Bialek should answer all questions.  Complete with an unflattering close-up photo of her, showing every facial pore and pock-mark, hair and eye-glasses askew, lipsticked mouth opened like a fish or a comatose, sedated senior citizen,  we were treated to a barrage of comments by an anonymous "friend" from Chicago, from whom we "learned" that:
1.  She's a "complete gold-digger;"
2.  She's "hell-bent" on "never having to work again;"

Interesting how Cain's defenders stress the anonymity of his first three accusers, while his PR machine serves up Bialek's anonymous trash-talking "friend" as a source with absolutely NO attempt to back up the info provided through collateral research.

The most hilarious part of this trashfest had to be the tax lien registered against her.  You'd think that tax-hating Republicans would regard a tax lien as a badge of honour, but apparently not in this case; they dug out every last dollar, to wit: "nearly" (sic) $5,200 in 2009.  Way to round those numbers upwards, Tribsters!!  Of course, a quick internet search reveals that the State of Georgia filed a tax lien for $8,558.46 in 2008 against - - wait for it!!! - - Herm the Perv!!!  Yeah, actually, it was kind of fun to Google tax liens AND [name your favourite Republican sleazebag here] and see what comes out.  Republicans hate taxes so much, they don't even pay them.

Most of the rest of the article seemed hell-bent on proving that Sharon Bialek was - - hold your breath! - - a POOR PERSON.       and a SINGLE MOTHER.  OMG, can you believe it?  On the run from credit card companies, banks and lawyers.  Living beyond her means!!  (Although not, I guess, as far beyond her means as Bernie Madoff, the directors of Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers and AIG and Citigroup, or all the legislators who took their money, but still . . . )  Who can imagine such depravity in the America of the Nineteen-Nineties??

I have to admit being somewhat puzzled though by this gold-digging, work-shunning, parasite on the ass of humanity, somehow getting her diploma from Arizona State University at the age of 22. 

How in the hell did she . . . ???  Oh, OF COURSE, I forgot - - she fucked her way through to it.  Obviously.  Silly me.

And then, I need to get this straight now - - this lazy, shiftless good-for-nothing, didn't she - -
  - work a year for the NRA?  (blow-jobs on her knees in the computer room)
  - work five years at WGN Radio?  (sex with the boss and all the DJs who weren't gay)
  - work another 2 and a half years at CBS Radio?
  - co-host a cooking show on TV for nine years?
  - work as an account manager for Revlon? and
   - work in corporate development for Easter Seals Society?

Sounds like she works pretty hard to me.  With all the corporate lay-offs, she's got some gaps in the old timeline?  BFD.  Hasn't worked in two years?   Of course not, the fucking finance industry crashed the economy in the fall of 08 and millions of people haven't worked since then.  BFD.

Looks to me like old Sharon is just a regular charter member of the 99%, with all the problems that entails.  The failure of capitalism has left a lot of victims in its wake, to sink or swim as best they can.  She seems to have found a high-earning man who loves and supports her.  Great!  All the less reason she needs to capitalize on this whole sordid mess, but she came forward to stop that fucking sleazebag to stop him trashing his victims and I think most Americans (not from THIS group, that's for fucking sure) have already seen through this Perv and I've got a lot of faith in Gloria Alred - - she'll tear Herm the Perv a new asshole, and one for his shit-smearing PR gang as well.  Go, Gloria!!!




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Re: Resolved: Herman Cain should withdraw from the primaries
« Reply #65 on: November 08, 2011, 05:32:35 PM »
   Doesn't your defense of Clinton include playing down the credability of the accusers?

   As far as I know that is all the Clintons and their staff ever did about his problem.

    Is this woman credable or not? I don't know yet.

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Gloria Alred - - she'll tear Herm the Perv a new asshole, and one for his shit-smearing PR gang as well.  Go, Gloria!!!

      Yep, that is the description of her career.


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« Reply #66 on: November 08, 2011, 05:37:19 PM »
Well concluded Plane.  Again, its fascinating to watch how some lunatics on the left will go aspesnot over perceived tactics that don't even come close to those employed on the women who were accusing then King Clinton, of acts far more egregious.  And yet those women still did come forward.

Simply fascinating.  Hypocrisy of the highest order, on display
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Re: Resolved: Herman Cain should withdraw from the primaries
« Reply #67 on: November 08, 2011, 05:41:46 PM »
Be careful what you wish for

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I am enough of a grown up to realize that my wishing for something will have no impact on what happens.

If I were to say I demand Cain resign from the primaries immediately, it would have no effect. Neither does my saying that I think the primaries should continue with Cain in them.
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Re: Resolved: Herman Cain should withdraw from the primaries
« Reply #68 on: November 08, 2011, 05:45:01 PM »
So, make sure you don't vote, since it obviously has little impact on what happens       ::)

Here's a hint, Xo.  it was a rhetorical statement
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« Reply #69 on: November 08, 2011, 05:47:31 PM »
It was a meaningless statement.

I do not live in Iowa or New Hampshire,and am not registered as a Republican. If I did vote,my vote would be very very unlikely to change anything.
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Re: Resolved: Herman Cain should withdraw from the primaries
« Reply #70 on: November 08, 2011, 05:53:43 PM »
Be careful what you wish for

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I am enough of a grown up to realize that my wishing for something will have no impact on what happens.

If I were to say I demand Cain resign from the primaries immediately, it would have no effect. Neither does my saying that I think the primaries should continue with Cain in them.


We are not worried that we are so sharp that we can split the world.
WE just want your wishes on record , so that we may tease you when they do come true.

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« Reply #71 on: November 08, 2011, 05:59:44 PM »
It was a meaningless statement.

ok, if that's what you want to call your statement, fine by me


Be careful what you wish for
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I am enough of a grown up to realize that my wishing for something will have no impact on what happens.

If I were to say I demand Cain resign from the primaries immediately, it would have no effect. Neither does my saying that I think the primaries should continue with Cain in them.

We are not worried that we are so sharp that we can split the world.
WE just want your wishes on record , so that we may tease you when they do come true.

 ;D

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« Reply #72 on: November 08, 2011, 06:51:50 PM »
Still more lunatic logic from the far-right lunatic fringe.  Herm the Perv's first response to the 4th accuser:  an all-out shitstorm of character assassination in a friendly paper (the Trib) which on closer inspection actually turns out to be one giant nothingburger.  A breathless revelation that the woman is poor; a single mother; hounded by creditors; had a tax lien (albeit a smaller one than the State of Georgia filed on Herm the Perv;) worked a total of about 8 and 1/2 years at three known jobs and an unknown period of time at two others, plus co-hosting a TV cooking show for nine years (although we don't know if this was actually a paying job) and had a university degree by the time she was about 22 years old.  So her work record may or may not have gaps in it, which for sure would make her a  certified member of the 99% and she hasn't worked for the past two years (a period of time starting about a year after the failure of capitalism crashed the fucking economy.

Oh, yeah, and they found an anonymous "friend" to call her a "gold-digger."   

WOW.  Impressive.  Not.

So in view of the failed mud-slinging attack coming (with awesome speed from the Cain camp, leading me to believe that the attack was well-prepared in advance) we have a still-credible fourth accuser, well-represented by the incomparable Gloria Allred.  How do our friends on the lunatic right react?  Easy.  In one chorus, all together, CLINTON!  CLINTON!  CLINTON!  CLINTON!  CLINTON!  I guess after the laughable failure of "Attack!  Attack!"  Attack!" then what other choice IS there but "Distract!  Distract!  Distract!"?

Nice try, guys, but may I suggest that once every news cycle you come back to planet earth briefly  enough just to get some fresh air and remind yourselves that it is HERM THE PERV who wants to be the GOP's next sacrificial lamb, and not Bill Clinton.  It might help to keep your posts a little less ludicrous.

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« Reply #73 on: November 08, 2011, 06:58:04 PM »
You can almost see the foam coming out of their mouths. 
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« Reply #74 on: November 08, 2011, 07:16:37 PM »
<<You can almost see the foam coming out of their mouths. >>

LOL   

What I can really almost see are the little hamsters running in circles inside sirs' brain in a closed loop with only two signposts:  Clinton-->Foam-->Clinton-->Foam-->Clinton-->Foam

DON'T LOOK over there at Sharon Bialek and Gloria Allred, look over here:  Clinton-->Foam-->Clinton-->Foam . . .

Good luck widdat, sirs.