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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Christians4LessGvt on April 04, 2014, 10:51:09 AM
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White Driver Stops After Accidentally Hitting Black Kid
(Mob of People Who Could Be Obama's Sons Beat Him Nearly To Death, Rob Him)
A Detroit man was in grave condition after a group of people pummeled him when he pulled over to check on a 11-year-old boy he hit with his truck.
The 54-year-old driver stopped as soon as he struck the little boy identified by his family only as "David" who darted in front of the pickup truck near Morang and Balfour streets shortly after 4 p.m. Wednesday, WXYZ-TV reported.
"David was laying right in front of the driveway and he had blood coming out of his mouth," James Duston, the boy's godfather, told the news station. "He couldn't move his body." Suddenly, some of the 30 people who surrounded the scene pounced on the driver. "I think it lasted about one minute and then they let him go," one witness, who did not give his name, told the news station. "And then they jumped back on him again and they did it about three times, and finally someone was trying to help the guy that got beat up, it was sad because I knew the guy was getting out of his car to try and see what damage he did."
The child was treated for a broken leg, but the driver was placed into an intensive care unit. A relative said he was suffering from injuries that included bleeding of the brain. "He could potentially die," Woody told the newspaper.
Only one news source (and there are plenty reporting on this story) was willing to describe the race of the attackers.
DETROIT, MI: A motorist stopped to check on an 11-year-old boy after he struck him with his vehicle at a gas station in Detroit and was severely beaten by a crowd of bystanders late Wednesday afternoon. "The child ran into the road in front of the vehicle and was struck," a representative if the Detroit Police Department Public Information Office said. "The driver stopped, got out to aid the child and he was severely beaten by 10-12 black males." Detroit police say both the motorist and child were in critical condition Wednesday evening. The stories on this never mention the race of the man who was attacked but I was able to confirm he is white...
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/03/driver-hits-kid-crossing-street-what-the-witnesses-when-he-got-out-of-the-car-to-help-is-stunning/
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Yeah, let's blame Obama for this.
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Yeah, let's blame Obama for this.
SIRS STRAW MAN ALERT!
"The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position
and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position.
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BINGO! 8)
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THERE IS NO BINGO.
I was referring to this stupid remark:
(Mob of People Who Could Be Obama's Sons Beat Him Nearly To Death, Rob Him)
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Of course you were, and of course you were using your reference as a straw man. As you keep demonstrating, every time you claim something some one says as not being a bingo, reinforces just how much of a bingo it was. 8)
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THERE IS NO BINGO.
I was referring to this stupid remark:
(Mob of People Who Could Be Obama's Sons Beat Him Nearly To Death, Rob Him)
Was President Obama stupid to make such a remark?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2012/mar/24/barack-obama-trayvon-martin-video
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No, he was not. But referring to this incident by saying that the bad guys resembled the President was seriously stupid and racist as well,
And, sorry, sirs, no bingo. You are such an ass.
Note that I did not say that you are someone who could resemble Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin or Dr Mengele.
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a) Racist is trying to pigeon hole people that they have to think and vote a certain way, based on their skin color
b) It was the President proclaiming how apparently anyone his skin color could be his son
c) The ongoing trying to claim how something someone said wasn't a bingo, keeps reinforcing how much it was in the 1st place.....thank you very much 8)
d) I'd guess the saloon, and its visitors are pretty fed up with the ongoing grammar school name calling. I'd suggest giving it a rest and either respond like....an actual professor would, or just not respond at all.
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No, he was not. .
OK, but I an not clear on what the difference is.
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I suggest you get reamed, you sanctimonious imbecile.
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....and of course avoid actually debating the issue of the thread. Not doing your students proud or providing much of an example
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Plane asked a very legitimate and civil question. Why waste time and energy calling me names, when you had a perfect opportunity to facilitate the kind of debate/dialog that folks like yourself hypocritically claim is missing here in the saloon? ???
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I suggest you get reamed, you sanctimonious imbecile.
Well you know , sometimes a guy just isn't in the mood.
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I answered the question: NO President Obama was not being stupid in any way in the context that he made the remark, because it was an explanation about why he was concerned with a local matter.
"Christians" however, WAS being stupid in making it, because President Obama had absolutely NOTHING to do with this happening, he was at best being a smartass, as worst, being a racist.
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Well that's one opinion......not really backed up by the facts, but at least an attempt to answer the question. Had to get the obligatory insults in, any way though. Sad
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I answered the question: NO President Obama was not being stupid in any way in the context that he made the remark, because it was an explanation about why he was concerned with a local matter.
I disagree that the President should show special concern for victims that share his skin tone, as far as I can tell this has been a mistaken attitude for a President since Washington was President.
I think standards have risen since Woodrow Wilson, and President Obama is not excused.
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BINGO........just how racist would folks feel of a President Bush had he spoken out about a local crime, implying how that child involved could have been his son, based nothing more on skin color? The left & MainScreamMedia would have gone apoplectic
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Once more with the Juniorbush blablabla. Who gives a shit?
You twist the President's words and then say you don't like them.
Big Deal! You have been on his case since before he was elected.
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Bush was jused as an example at the Presidential level. There is a pelthora of current examples of Conservatives and Republicans, with inferred, if not outright accusations, of racism, where there's nothing even remotely racial. latest example AG Holder crying about how poorly he's been treated by Congress.....wink wink.....because he's black
Here's a lingustic specific.....anytime you inject race into a conversation, that is by definition, racially motivated. Now, that could be a good thing, if the coversation is about race. However, there was absolutely no reason, what-so-ever, for Obama to reference Martin, that he could "be his son", in a local case. It had nothing to do with national security, global warming, illegal immigration, or even a national holilday.
There are thousands of minorities killed in places like Chicago, Detroit, NY, & LA. Are they lesser humans, in those local matters?? Is he not concerned with their killings?? What he did was inject more racial animosity & angst into an issue, that already was being stoked by the twin twits, Sharpton & JJ. It was stupid then, and it still is
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You were stupid, whenever that was, and continue to be stupid, sirs.
And there is no bingo.
There has never been a bingo for you.
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LOL....priceless....by all means, ignore every substantive point made, and keep up the "great example of leftist debate" 8)
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You twist the President's words and then say you don't like them.
Perhaps,.... I have misunderstood things from time to time.
When the President said what he did I thought he was taking sides in the disputed facts. What did you think he meant?
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sirs never says one damned substantive thing. He makes no sense, ever.
He simply says annoying crap and then says BINGO
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LOL...and yet, you spend all this extra time, acting like some 3rd grader instead of a professor, calling me names, and avoiding even Plane's questions. ::)
Here's a suggestion......ditch the name calling, ignore the bingos, and actually try to address what the bingos were referencing. And here's a hint, the bingos aren't referencing anything I said, so its pretty bogus to make them about me. That my dear professor would be a deflection effort, and everyone else can see that. And as has been clearly defined, you can't keep trying to use me as your go to crutch in your transparent inability to actually debate anything substantive. At least as it relates to politics
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You don't KNOW anything substantive. All you do is blather blather blather and shout BINGO in triumph. It is a waste of time for anyone to debate with you. No obne else bothers to try it, either.
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Priceless......wash...rinse...repeat (http://debategate.com/new3dhs/index.php?topic=17981.msg155661#msg155661).
And for those of you not paying attention....which pretty much is only our professor at this point, everyone enjoys debating everyone here, including debating me. You should give it a try sometime, although we can all understand why you don't 8)
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In the probable vain effort of trying to steer our good Professor back into the realm of substantive debate, we have this still unanswered question posed by Plane....When the President said what he did I thought he was taking sides in the disputed facts. What did you think he meant?
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I am pretty sure that he meant that letting Zimmy go free as a bird after killing Trevon needed further investigation. That is, in fact, what he said.
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How much more investigation could have been done, that wasn't already performed??
Nor does that explain the question....why did Obama reference that Martin could have been his son?? As has been factually referenced, thousands of minorities are killed every year, as are non-minorities, both via murder as well as tragically accidental.
Are their deaths not just as important??
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How much more investigation could have been done, that wasn't already performed??
Nor does that explain the question....why did Obama reference that Martin could have been his son?? As has been factually referenced, thousands of minorities are killed every year, as are non-minorities, both via murder as well as tragically accidental.
Are their deaths not just as important??
No , if the killers also look like they could be his son, then the situation is a racial wash.
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Good point
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At that point, there had been very little investigation that was known and reported.
Zimmerman is a prize stupid douchebag. At one point he had $200K in Pay Pal and a passport. He should have headed for Pucallpa or Tingo Maria, but he stuck around and got screwed. It was utterly predictable.
The President of the United State enjoys the right to speak freely. He said nothing inappropriate. Biuut you hate him, so you want to make a big deal of it. You are just showing off your intolerance and hatred.
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Ahhh...now we've gone to his right to speak freely...yet another deflection, since no one claimed he didn't have that right. The point was the stupidity of what he said, especially in making it about race, and fueling an already volatile situation thanks to the twit twins JJ & Sharpton
And no, I don't hate Obama.....I hate what he's done to the country however. and you really don't want to go with the intolerance/hatred card, since the only one exemplifying race baiting and repetitive name calling here would be you, Profressor
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At that point, there had been very little investigation that was known and reported.
Good point, but that is all the more reason that the president should have been circumspect.
Zimmerman is a prize stupid douchebag. At one point he had $200K in Pay Pal and a passport. He should have headed for Pucallpa or Tingo Maria, but he stuck around and got screwed. It was utterly predictable.
You think he was stupid to stand and face the music? Law would work better if more of us were that stupid.The President of the United State enjoys the right to speak freely.
No
He said nothing inappropriate.
No
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Biuut you hate him, so you want to make a big deal of it. You are just showing off your intolerance and hatred.
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He is not my favorite , but I take it as perfectly unavoidable that we will have bad presidents now and then.
Grant was an incompetent President , Harrison was a corrupt President , Nixon was dishonest (more than a President needs to be). Our Nation might have been better served by more competent , honest people in the office than these three were, but I do not accept that my dismay twards these three white men is in any way proof , nor even indication , of my hatred of white presidents.
If Jackie Robinson had been a white ball player , he might have had less hard times , but his stats would have won him a place in the hall of fame even so. He was not just the first black major league player he was a genuinely great ball player.
The first black president of the US will have a library , probably near Chicago , and a page in history books , mention in trivia games ,.....
But his stats do not lift him above the common run of Presidents.
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Obama will be respected and revered as the man who finally provided healthcare to most of the people. He mongered no wars, many fewer servicemen died as a result of military adventures. He has always had a quiet and professional demeanor, unlike Juniorbush. He had to put up with the foulest bunch of a obstinate jackasses in Congress in decades.
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;D That coolaide must taste good
- He's destroyed our healthcare system
- He's destroyed our standing in the middle east
- He's run perhaps THE most NON-transparent administration in our history
- Russia & China now have absoltuely no boundries to abide by
- Worst amount of debt than all other Presidents combined
- Worst economic recovery in our history
But he's probably a nice guy and good dad. Maybe gets Father of the year award.......from his daughters
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Obama will be respected and revered as the man who finally provided healthcare to most of the people. He mongered no wars, many fewer servicemen died as a result of military adventures. He has always had a quiet and professional demeanor, unlike Juniorbush. He had to put up with the foulest bunch of a obstinate jackasses in Congress in decades.
The Jury is still out on most of these , but it does not look good .
If we must go to war soon , his support for readiness will make his fame much as Chamberlain's.
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Zimmerman is a prize stupid douchebag.
Trayvon Martin was a douchebag...but now he's a dead douchebag.
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;D That coolaide must taste good
- He's destroyed our healthcare system
- He's destroyed our standing in the middle east
- He's run perhaps THE most NON-transparent administration in our history
- Russia & China now have absoltuely no boundries to abide by
- Worst amount of debt than all other Presidents combined
- Worst economic recovery in our history
But he's probably a nice guy and good dad. Maybe gets Father of the year award.......from his daughters
(http://www.mrc.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/cartoon_550/images/CMI-Transparency.jpg)
(http://www.mrc.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/cartoon_550/images/BMI-7%20million.jpg)