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71% Disapprove of Obama on the Economy
« on: August 18, 2011, 12:10:55 PM »
The only way somebody could approve of what Obama is doing to the country is somebody who deliberately wants to see it destroyed, to knock us down a peg. They don't want us to be a great country anymore. 

http://www.gallup.com/poll/149042/New-Low-Approve-Obama-Economy.aspx

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Re: 71% Disapprove of Obama on the Economy
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2011, 12:25:39 PM »
Yeah but a positive person like Obama would be happy with the 26% that approve. Now that I think about it, Obama when he was campaigning wasn't very positive and always said how bad things were. Boy if only we could turn the clocks back to 2005 before the Democrats took control of the Congress and of course Obama got elected in 2008!!

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Re: 71% Disapprove of Obama on the Economy
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2011, 01:06:52 PM »
http://www.gallup.com/poll/149063/Americans-Satisfaction-National-Conditions-Dips.aspx

Americans' Satisfaction With National Conditions Dips to 11%

The Aug. 11-14 Gallup poll finds satisfaction down five points from July (16%) and nine points since June (20%). The dip is likely a response to the recent negotiations to raise the federal debt ceiling and continued concern about the national economy amid a volatile stock market. The recent downing of a U.S. military helicopter in Afghanistan resulting in the deaths of 30 U.S. servicemen could also be contributing to Americans' glum mood.

Gallup began measuring Americans' satisfaction with national conditions in 1979. Since then, satisfaction has been lower than the current 11% in only a few measurements in the final months of 2008. The all-time low of 7% came in an Oct. 10-12, 2008, poll, conducted shortly after stock values plummeted following Congress' passage of the TARP legislation in response to the September 2008 financial crisis.

The current figures represent the continuation of a long slump in national satisfaction, which has been below 30% since September 2009, below 40% since August 2005, and below 50% since January 2004. The historical average satisfaction rating since 1979 is 40%. The all-time high is 71% in February 1999.

Democrats are somewhat more likely to say they are satisfied (19%) with conditions in the United States today than are Republicans (9%) and independents (8%).

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Re: 71% Disapprove of Obama on the Economy
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011, 03:47:36 PM »
What I think is funny is that Democrats are *still* blaming Bush.

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz was on TV Sunday morning complaining about all of this being Bush's fault.
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Re: 71% Disapprove of Obama on the Economy
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2011, 03:51:54 PM »
The historical average satisfaction rating since 1979 is 40%. The all-time high is 71% in February 1999.

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I find it amusing that a huge number of Americans are constantly saying "We're Number One!", but our all time high of satisfaction was 71%, a C- in most of our schools.

If these people actually believed we were Number One, then why are the only 71% satisfied?

There is a clear disconnect here. I wonder what similar figures  for Danes, Finns, Swedes, Bhutanese or other nationalities might be.
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Re: 71% Disapprove of Obama on the Economy
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2011, 04:11:09 PM »
What I think is funny is that Democrats are *still* blaming Bush.

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz was on TV Sunday morning complaining about all of this being Bush's fault.


They're still sore about Bush v. Gore
National Popular Vote conflicts with spirit of nation’s founding documents.

Gov. Jerry Brown's decision to sign legislation promoting a concept known as the National Popular Vote will give impetus to a troubling national movement that seeks to undermine the nation's Electoral College and replace it with a system at odds with what the founders envisioned.

Americans were reminded of the inner workings of the arcane Electoral College after the bizarre 2000 presidential contest between Democrat Al Gore and Republican George W. Bush. Gore won more votes nationwide than Bush, but Bush ultimately won the election – after recounts and legal battles – because the president is selected by electors in each state. The nation's presidential election is, in essence, a system of 50 state elections and not a national popularity contest.

If a sufficient number of states pass similar legislation, the nation would shift from this indirect system of electing presidents to a national popularity contest that would shift power from the more conservative heartland to the major coastal urban centers. That no doubt explains why Brown and many liberal activists are promoting this idea.

Without the Electoral College, candidates would spend almost all their time and resources in the nation's large urban areas, where most of the voters live. That would undermine the national nature of the election, which is why the system was designed as it is now. But California politicians, and Democrats, in particular, do not like the way the system dilutes the influence of our state.

Despite its enormous population, California is so overwhelmingly Democratic that national candidates only make perfunctory visits here – often to raise money. Republicans, for instance, know that California would drain their resources from competitive states – and that their candidates would probably lose anyway. So California is ignored.

One obvious first question: Would the nation really benefit from a national election that focused more heavily on the liberal political tendencies found in California? The answer explains why many Democrats – still smarting from Gore's 2000 loss – have come up with the National Popular Vote plan. To avoid going through the cumbersome process of amending the Constitution, these supporters have come up with a convoluted idea.

States would enter into a compact by passing laws that would do the following, according to the organization advocating the process:

"Under the National Popular Vote bill, all of the state's electoral votes would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. The bill would take effect only when enacted, in identical form, by states possessing a majority of the electoral votes – that is, enough electoral votes to elect a president (270 of 538)."

This approach seems to be legal under the Constitution, but it clearly is an affront to the spirit of the nation's founding documents, which eschewed majoritarianism. The constitutional issues loom large, as do the practical consequences of the change. The Republican National Committee voted overwhelmingly against the idea this month.

Shawn Steel, a former state Republican Party chairman, explained a key reason for this vote in a recent Flashreport.org column: "If states no longer control who gets elected, then it's a simple matter of massing votes from corrupt urban areas. No longer would 50 states matter, but only huge urban regions would control. New York City, Los Angeles and Chicago would push the vote. Chicago's notorious fraudulent cemetery voters would no longer be confined to Illinois.

"Instead Chicago alone would bury the Midwest,"
he wrote.

The views of all Americans matter, in states large and small. The Electoral College accounts for that. It's time California buries the National Popular Vote idea.


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Re: 71% Disapprove of Obama on the Economy
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2011, 04:25:48 PM »
The Electoral College is a stupid and antiquated idea. It means that the idea of one man, one vote does not apply.

Vote fraud in the USA is minimal.
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Re: 71% Disapprove of Obama on the Economy
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2011, 07:22:01 PM »
What I think is funny is that Democrats are *still* blaming Bush.

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz was on TV Sunday morning complaining about all of this being Bush's fault.


Where is the leadership the U.S. was promised?
August 15th, 2011

When pundits (Right, and now Left) protest President Barack Obama’s lack of leadership, Obama pretends to listen. Then he ups his game, not with new ideas, but with anger – what he calls frustration – added to his same, blame-others repetitive brainwashing rhetoric that diverts attention from himself.  Just listen to his speech from Holland, Mich.

He reminds us frequently that the recession began before him – as in – it is Bush’s fault (omitting that his party had the majority in the House and Senate). However, after nearly three years of Obama policies the current economic slowdown is out of “anyone’s control.” Before it is too late, clear your mind from the artificially induced emotion he wants you to use and see his real agenda.

When you look at America for what she was, and not what he wants her to be, Obama is a failed leader pushing failed policies.


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