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yet another Palin "what she meant" moment.
« on: September 30, 2008, 09:46:33 PM »
Oh, she's just making it up as she goes along...

Campaign tries to explain Palin's Putin comment
By MARTHA MENDOZA
The Associated Press

Gov. Sarah Palin cites vigilance against Russian warplanes coming into U.S. airspace over Alaska as one of her foreign policy credentials. But the U.S. military command in charge says that hasn't happened in her 21 months in office.

"When you consider even national security issues with Russia, as (Prime Minister Vladimir) Putin rears his head and comes into the airspace of the United States of America, where - where do they go? It's Alaska," the Republican vice presidential nominee said in an interview last week with CBS News' Katie Couric.

The spokeswoman for the McCain-Palin campaign, Maria Comella, clarified in an e-mail to The Associated Press that when "Russian incursions near Alaskan airspace and inside the air defense identification zone have occurred ... U.S. Air Force fighters have been scrambled repeatedly."

The air defense identification zone, almost completely over water, extends 12-mile past the perimeter of the United States. Most nations have similar areas.

However, no Russian military planes have been flying even into that zone, said Maj. Allen Herritage, a spokesman for the Alaska region of the North American Aerospace Defense Command, at Elmendorf Air Force Base.

"To be very clear, there has not been any incursion in U.S. airspace in recent years," Herritage said.

What Palin might have been referring to was a buffer zone of airspace that extends beyond the 12-mile strip. Although not recognized internationally as America's to protect, the military watches it.

That zone is where there has been increased Russian bomber exercises - about 20 incidents in the last two years. When Russian bombers enter that expanded area, sometimes called the outer air defense identification zone by the military, U.S. or Canadian fighter jets are dispatched to check them, Herritage said.

Asked about Herritage's statement, Palin's foreign policy adviser, Steve Biegun, insisted the candidate's position was correct. Russia's "old behaviors" of aggressively flying into U.S. airspace have been exhibited recently, he said.

"Governor Palin told me that when Russian aircraft buzz American airspace and U.S. aircraft are mobilized at Elmendorf Air Force Base, she is informed by her National Guard commander," said Biegun, who did not offer any additional explanation for the contradiction.

"The point she was making is that the geographical location of Alaska has unique attributes. This doesn't happen to many states in the union," Biegun said. "Her point was that she's pretty up close to some of the big issues of international affairs."

Herritage said Air Force officials discussed with Palin instances of Russian planes entering the buffer zone and the U.S. response during their annual statehouse briefing in February.

It could not immediately be determined how many times Palin had been notified in real time of Russian planes having entered the buffer zone. Major General Craig E. Campbell, the adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard, did not immediately return calls and e-mails.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/707994.html

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Re: yet another Palin "what she meant" moment.
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2008, 10:30:50 PM »
This should be easy to verify. Anyone have the scramble logs from Elmendorf Air Force Base?

Why were they scrambled? Was Palin either Governor or a resident at the time?

 

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Re: yet another Palin "what she meant" moment.
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2008, 09:55:39 AM »
If Putin is in Moscow, he's more likely to fly into New York than through Alaska.

The only thing more remote to a Russian than Alaska is to an American is Siberia and Kamchatka.
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Re: yet another Palin "what she meant" moment.
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 12:21:15 PM »
Putin's name was invoked figuratively.

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Re: yet another Palin "what she meant" moment.
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2008, 12:27:04 PM »
Putin's name was invoked figuratively.


So Putin only flew figuratively over Alaska. Which means that Palin is only figuratively competent.

Can we trust her to play "Risk", at least?
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Re: yet another Palin "what she meant" moment.
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2008, 05:17:23 PM »
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So Putin only flew figuratively over Alaska. Which means that Palin is only figuratively competent.

Can we trust her to play "Risk", at least?

But Russian planes did trigger scrambles at the AFB. And that was what she was referring to.

Who cares anyway.

The only executive experience your guy has was the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and that was a failure.

And he didn't get the asbestos removed from the projects which was his big claim to fame as a community organizer.


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Re: yet another Palin "what she meant" moment.
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2008, 05:26:27 PM »
IIRC, he was an utter failure as a "community organizer".  Said so in his own book, which prompted the change into law school
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